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Old 08-30-2009, 09:02 PM   #16
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Post to Nate he should understand. HVACSite is a good place.

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Old 08-31-2009, 04:54 AM   #17
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I was banned there. http://www.hvacsite.com/f7/xe-1100-outside-unit-179/

I'm still try to find out what I did wrong.
As said before.

Thats a DIYer post.

There is no wording in that post that comes off as a student.

So its easy to understand why you are banned.

Even your questions in this post, don't come off 100% as a studen learning the trade. Which is why I asked in the first place.

As others said. You need to contact Nate.

What his full requirements are for the Pro site. I don't know.
He may require you to be IN the trade. Or he may need proof that you are really taking courses above and beyond what someone only interested in for his personal bebefit.

Contact him.
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Old 08-31-2009, 04:57 AM   #18
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Okay, this already happened in my house before. The "tech" told me that the unit was low freon. He added freon by looking the set of gauges and at the end He said we need 4lb LOL. Now I know the right way should be. Thanks
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:08 AM   #19
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Hey Ken.

But when the sticker fades on the condenser I use 10deg for piston and 13 for txv.


I also compare the two and most the time they are pretty close to each other unless there is a huge heat load inside the house. Sometimes on a HOT day I will start the system up and let it run 24 hrs and then go back the next day and do final adjustments.

Very smart move. Right out of the old school Heil/Arcoaire training seminar.
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:18 AM   #20
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I want to get into the trade. Iím taking online classes at Penn Foster. After I finish the class, Iíll take the EPA and Nate certifications. I already started to get my HVAC tools. I work in the IT industry but to be honest, I think most of our jobs will be outsourced overseas. I really appreciated your feedback in any tips to get into the trade in the future.

Hope you don't lose your job Carlos, it would be damned ironic.
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Your post came across there as a DIY question which is not allowed there. Contact Nathan the administrator at the far bottom right of that page (contact us) and explain who you are (student) and what happened and he may let you in. It is a good site and I can give you some more info and so can other pro's. Make SURE you let the members know you are a student so they don't think you are a DIYer there. Charging A/Cs is not an exact science. Airflow thru the evap coil, cleanliness of the evap and condensor coil, mismatched coils and lines etc can affect the system charge. Some of it you have to learn from experience in the field but you are on the right path.

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This is a blind spot in th Hvac Site rules. I want to help a student but don't want to hold their hand either. So maybe we pros should get together and come up with a solution and present it to Nathan concerning guys legitimately just starting school

Maybe allow them after the can prove 90 day in an acredited program.
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:06 PM   #22
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This is a blind spot in th Hvac Site rules. I want to help a student but don't want to hold their hand either. So maybe we pros should get together and come up with a solution and present it to Nathan concerning guys legitimately just starting school

Maybe allow them after the can prove 90 day in an acredited program.

That's really a nice gesture on your part to help the new guys.
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Very smart move. Right out of the old school Heil/Arcoaire training seminar.

I didn't see you there Clover. But we sure had a good time

How's it going Clover
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Old 08-31-2009, 06:24 PM   #24
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How it's going is I am digging a hole in the back yard and pulling the dirt in over me until this friggin mess blows over.

Too many things going on in my life right now that are very overwhelming.
And then i gotta handle the wise mouth back stabber that I am handling at a few different sites.

Gearing up for winter tune-ups, but my heart isn't in it.
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I want to get into the trade. Iím taking online classes at Penn Foster. After I finish the class, Iíll take the EPA and Nate certifications. I already started to get my HVAC tools. I work in the IT industry but to be honest, I think most of our jobs will be outsourced overseas. I really appreciated your feedback in any tips to get into the trade in the future.

Hope you don't lose your job Carlos, it would be damned ironic.
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As said before.

Thats a DIYer post.

There is no wording in that post that comes off as a student.

So its easy to understand why you are banned.

Even your questions in this post, don't come off 100% as a studen learning the trade. Which is why I asked in the first place.

As others said. You need to contact Nate.

What his full requirements are for the Pro site. I don't know.
He may require you to be IN the trade. Or he may need proof that you are really taking courses above and beyond what someone only interested in for his personal bebefit.

Contact him.
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Old 08-31-2009, 06:54 PM   #27
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No where did you read that I said the question was stupid.
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He's right Been, you're hurting my eyes too! Stop it.
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I always like helping students and newbies. I remember the miserable old Journeymen I started with and hope not to become like one of them. Our other site is "lacking" in interesting posts so helping students would make it more interesting IMO.
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Cralx2k, There are NO stupid questions. Stupidity is techs who don't know what they are doing and too stupid to ask questions and work on gas or other machinery. Don't know what is dangerous and don't care. Ask well thought out questions AFTER you have exhausted all the means to find the answer yourself. We can answer most of them but you won't learn if you don't try yourself. We can tell if you have done your homework.


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