Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > HVAC

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-26-2012, 02:10 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 96
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


Hi,
Our water heater, like the whole house, is less than one year old. This morning I was touching up some paint in the laundry room when I noticed some brown goop on the wall behind the water heater. It felt a little greasy and left a little bit of a greasy or oily mark on the wall. I looked at the copper (?) pipe at the top of the water heater and saw two "drips" suspended from the pipe. It's very possible I just haven't noticed the drops of bown stuff on the wall before, considering its behind the tank. But, I wonder what could make these little brown goopy spots over such a wide area behind the tank.
I've attached three photos: the tank from afar, the piping with the drips hanging off it, and the splatters on the wall.
Thank you!
Attached Thumbnails
Brown "goop" - from water heater?-dsc_0068_small.jpg   Brown "goop" - from water heater?-dsc_0069_small.jpg   Brown "goop" - from water heater?-dsc_0070_small.jpg  

darthsmozers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2012, 02:16 PM   #2
Hvac Pro
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Posts: 9,790
Rewards Points: 2,718
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


Soldering paste/flux that is used to clean the joint and allow the solder to flow and a sloppy plumber with a turbotorch. You can wipe it off the joints and should or it will attack the metal and turn green in a few yrs. Use warm water to rinse them and wash your hands later as it is slightly corrosive or wear rubber gloves. The wall nothing can be done about except sand them off and repaint.

__________________
"Cut it twice and it is still too short".
yuri is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2012, 02:29 PM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 96
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


Quote:
Originally Posted by yuri View Post
Soldering paste/flux that is used to clean the joint and allow the solder to flow and a sloppy plumber with a turbotorch. You can wipe it off the joints and should or it will attack the metal and turn green in a few yrs. Use warm water to rinse them and wash your hands later as it is slightly corrosive or wear rubber gloves. The wall nothing can be done about except sand them off and repaint.
Hmm, so you think the splatter is a leftover from 7 months ago instead of something new?
darthsmozers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2012, 02:32 PM   #4
how
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 1,530
Rewards Points: 576
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


I don't have any call to do electric tanks but...

Is it code to just strap lumex cable to water pipes and
who projects expansion tanks horizontally without support?

And with a spray pattern that wide on the wall makes me wonder about a vaccum breaker out of sight behind behind the exp tank.
how is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to how For This Useful Post:
ben's plumbing (02-26-2012), plummen (03-03-2012)
Old 02-26-2012, 02:33 PM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 27,518
Rewards Points: 4,152
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


That looks like old flux to me to, just wipe it off and move one. It most like been there since it was soldered.
joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2012, 02:40 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 96
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


Quote:
Originally Posted by joecaption View Post
That looks like old flux to me to, just wipe it off and move one. It most like been there since it was soldered.
I guess if I clean it then discover more later we'll know for sure. Thanks!
darthsmozers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2012, 05:10 PM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: ohio
Posts: 1,113
Rewards Points: 534
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


how does bring in a good point your expansion tank is horizontal and not supported so when bladder fails and fills with water that is some extra weight being put on fitting he asked is it code i find if you ask an inspector on that he will reply most be installed to manufactures directions and here are watts and flexcon

http://media2.wattswater.com/1915323.pdf

http://www.flexconind.com/pdf/wh-whv_install.pdf
__________________
"be careful at listening to just one persons advise" said me
"be careful at listening to just one persons advise" said myself
p.s. not all i say is a fact but not all i say is my opinion.
jaydevries is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2012, 04:46 AM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Eighty Four, Pa.15330
Posts: 1,339
Rewards Points: 676
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


Real Butch! What's in the walls?
bobelectric is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2012, 05:39 AM   #9
the Musigician
 
DangerMouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: I'm right here!
Posts: 10,404
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


I'm PRETTY sure this install was not permitted nor inspected properly.
NWIH would MY inspector let that "floating tank" stay, for one thing.

DM
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Click here to see some of my original magic tricks and trick boxes!
DangerMouse is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to DangerMouse For This Useful Post:
hvactech126 (03-03-2012), plummen (03-03-2012)
Old 03-03-2012, 10:51 AM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 96
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


Hmm. I will try to photograph behind the tank to see if there is any hidden extra support.
darthsmozers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2012, 12:50 PM   #11
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: SE PA
Posts: 116
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


Hmmm, regarding the "floating" tank issue, that is a good point but is also common practice unfortunately And does not seem to be caught often by inspectors. I have lived in 3 homes, one in nj, and two in Pa and all have had the expansion tank mounted sideways. township inspectors and home inspectors haven't mentioned anything in either case. I'll have to add that to the "to be checked out" list...
dengle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2012, 01:16 PM   #12
how
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 1,530
Rewards Points: 576
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


Last week I visited a broken boiler where the horizontal water logged extrol expansion tank had bent the fittings on its way through the zone valve wiring. When those things get completely water filled, they weigh as much as a stone of that size would.
Every manufacture's instructions that I've ever read never allows an unsupported
horizontal installation.

Last edited by how; 03-03-2012 at 01:19 PM.
how is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to how For This Useful Post:
DangerMouse (03-03-2012), plummen (03-03-2012)
Old 03-03-2012, 09:55 PM   #13
retired elect/hvac/plumb
 
plummen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: south east of omaha/The island of misfit contractors
Posts: 2,916
Rewards Points: 2,010
Default

Brown "goop" - from water heater?


Quote:
Originally Posted by how View Post
I don't have any call to do electric tanks but...

Is it code to just strap lumex cable to water pipes and
who projects expansion tanks horizontally without support?

And with a spray pattern that wide on the wall makes me wonder about a vaccum breaker out of sight behind behind the exp tank.
No,Id atleast sleeve that romex in greenfield between the heater and junction box myself.

__________________
"facts" have no relevance to this discusion
Posting from a concrete bunker under a non descript barn
plummen is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
water heater drip kdange1 Plumbing 6 10-29-2014 06:26 PM
How to properly drain and flush a hot water heater? speedster1 Plumbing 9 04-17-2012 10:55 PM
no water at sink after water heater removal rebelbull Plumbing 2 07-19-2011 01:37 AM
A blocked water line causing water to loose heat? Snav Plumbing 6 05-07-2010 03:18 PM
Water heater pressure relief valve confusion Flt_Simulation Plumbing 4 07-11-2009 11:02 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.