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Old 02-06-2011, 03:30 PM   #31
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I am not a great fan of trusteams. If you carefully watch them it takes about 5 mins B4 it actually produces any steam. Has to heat up the water and like a kettle that takes time. In a newer home the heat cycle may be 7-10 mins and with these new tstats that cut out after 1 degF the cycle may not be long enough to produce enough steam and get the job done IMO. Best thing for humidity is to seal the house up properly so it is not so drafty and losing heat and humidity out the leaks. Then cook lots of pasta.

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Old 02-06-2011, 03:33 PM   #32
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Naw, it's a cultural thing, Olga could lay a good lickin on you.
That good far Eastern European blood.

I knew a Greek guy who moved to Winnipeg...bit of a drunk. he wrote me that he was dating a very tall blond with a deep guttural voice.

He said in his letter that she "liked it rough". He sent this pic of his lover.
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Thats Greeks for you.
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Old 02-06-2011, 04:20 PM   #34
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Well at least they're both Orthodox and she didn't have have any problem with having only fish on Fridy.
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hey Yuri do you have the same problem we got down here i.e. most existing homes have under sized duct work?
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Old 02-06-2011, 04:46 PM   #36
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depends on local water utilitys ....our rates here are high.. a steam humidifier
could very well satisfy the humidistat more quickly than a conventional by-pass humid. In such a case the electric consumption would cost less than then the water.

By-pass humidifier are not at all forgiving in the way they must be installed.

The airflow must be at a minimum air velocity measured in FPM a certain Static Preeure.

This makes the installation of by-pass humidifiers problematic. It also means water down the drain as the humidifier supply water won't be absorbed into the air and all the water is going down the drain as waste. That's money down the drain too.

Water and sewer rate must be very high for a bypass to cost more then a steamer to use.

No matter what, a steamer must use 970BTUs(284.2watts)to vaporize 1 pound of water, after it has heated it from incoming temp to 212F. On average a total of 446 watts per pound of water. A house that needs 12 gallons a day, then uses 44.58 KWHs a day. Or 1,337 KWHs a month.

I've fielded a fair number of complaints from people about how much electric their steam humidifier uses.
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Water and sewer rate must be very high for a bypass to cost more then a steamer to use.

No matter what, a steamer must use 970BTUs(284.2watts)to vaporize 1 pound of water, after it has heated it from incoming temp to 212F. On average a total of 446 watts per pound of water. A house that needs 12 gallons a day, then uses 44.58 KWHs a day. Or 1,337 KWHs a month.

I've fielded a fair number of complaints from people about how much electric their steam humidifier uses.

I am tired from my field training so I'm just gonna let Yrui's earlier post speak for me:
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I am not a great fan of trusteams. If you carefully watch them it takes about 5 mins B4 it actually produces any steam. Has to heat up the water and like a kettle that takes time. In a newer home the heat cycle may be 7-10 mins and with these new tstats that cut out after 1 degF the cycle may not be long enough to produce enough steam and get the job done IMO. Best thing for humidity is to seal the house up properly so it is not so drafty and losing heat and humidity out the leaks. Then cook lots of pasta.
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No we don't really have problems with undersized ductwork. Only about 10%. Probably because we all had old gravity furnaces or slow moving old oil furnaces and when money was not the primary object of concern and tradesmen ruled (not beancounters) ductwork was large and hand crafted here. Builders here seem too have gotten together and agreed to use large enough ductwork and cut corners elsewhere.
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[quote=yuri;585990]No we don't really have problems with undersized ductwork. Only about 10%. Probably because we all had old gravity furnaces or slow moving old oil furnaces and when money was not the primary object of concern and tradesmen ruled (not beancounters) ductwork was large and hand crafted here. Builders here seem too have gotten together and agreed to use large enough ductwork and cut corners elsewhere.[/quote

Yeah around here the only place you find right sized duct work here is on the 60 year old homes that were oil converted to gas. Very accommodating for the new smaller furnaces.
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Did you get kicked off of HVAC-talk?
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Did you get kicked off of HVAC-talk?
AAhhh the antagonists from the "I hate DIYS" Pros have arriveed to stir the pot.

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No, actually. I thought I heard you got booted from HVAC-talk by the Nazi regime run amok.
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Well, I don't know by the user name you choose if you are any body i would recognize ...
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I believe he(uni) was banned under 2 different names from there.
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I believe he(uni) was banned under 2 different names from there.

HHmm then we ain't got nothin' in common.




Been, cool it! I can hear you laughing from here.

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