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Old 05-07-2013, 05:46 AM   #1
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Four year old American standard AC-this product seems to have both evap and condenser coil leaks. Question-- when replacing these coils is there a replacement coil better than the crap from American Standard? Have info of multiple failures of their replacement coils. THANKS

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Four year old American standard AC-this product seems to have both evap and condenser coil leaks. Question-- when replacing these coils is there a replacement coil better than the crap from American Standard? Have info of multiple failures of their replacement coils. THANKS
why not just get another a/c system...which includes coil, condenser and lineset...many to chose from...ben sr.....remember install is the most important part of hvac systems

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Are you for real. $14,000 AC system ONLY 4 years old and you suggest scrapping it and blowing another few grand?? Come on REALLY that's the best answer you can give- I am asking the wrong people questions.
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Are you for real. $14,000 AC system ONLY 4 years old and you suggest scrapping it and blowing another few grand?? Come on REALLY that's the best answer you can give- I am asking the wrong people questions.
you need to watch yourself, lucky he answered you in the first place. what do you think you'd be paying for coil replacements anyhow? each one can cost around 2k. but your system is under warranty so the coils will be free. labor, still an arm and a leg.

I'd charge you 2 grand labor per coil just because you're rude.
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wmmurphy, one thing I've learned about HVAC in general and A/C in particular is... it's expensive. Just the way it is.
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Four year old American standard AC-this product seems to have both evap and condenser coil leaks. Question-- when replacing these coils is there a replacement coil better than the crap from American Standard? Have info of multiple failures of their replacement coils. THANKS
If the coils are out of warranty then I would consult your local heating and A/C supply house for a different coil that will work on your system. If they are not out of warranty, it should cost you labor depending on the warranty. consult your installer for answers to those questions.
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I especially enjoy how you call it "crap from American Standard" then when suggested to buy a different system you jump the help.

and for the record five year parts on condensers, 10 on evaps, mostly, which means under warranty. you don't have a choice in the coils they give you.
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Yep. A.S. will replace them with the same thing under parts warranty. If you want something different then you'll have to pay for it. No way to know for sure if an evap coil from another mfr. will deliver the same latent and sensible BTU as the original but they will be close. Doubt another brand of condensing coil would fit the A.S. unit right. ADP can custom make one but you're getting into new system territory after labor and refrigerant is added to the cost of the coils and they'll only have a one year warranty.
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and I have to ask, how did the conclusion come that the coils are bad??

I am not bashing Techs or standing up for the MFGR, be we all know that there are lots of scams out there and some junk equipment... just asking thats all.
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and I have to ask, how did the conclusion come that the coils are bad??

I am not bashing Techs or standing up for the MFGR, be we all know that there are lots of scams out there and some junk equipment... just asking thats all.
I was wondering the very same thing. If both the evap and the cond coil are leaking... it is either the worst design possible, someone put them there, a system burnout producing acid that ate through the coils, or gremlins. I vote gremlins.
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Are you for real. $14,000 AC system ONLY 4 years old and you suggest scrapping it and blowing another few grand?? Come on REALLY that's the best answer you can give- I am asking the wrong people questions.
well ..1 st american standard dosen't have anything in 40 yrs in the trade that is even close being worth 14,000 dollars. 2nd ..and while in warranty there going to replace it with the same crap which you will pay the labor for..so if you don't get away for your crap equiptment that you call it ...your stuck with it ..ben sr

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Are you for real. $14,000 AC system ONLY 4 years old and you suggest scrapping it and blowing another few grand?? Come on REALLY that's the best answer you can give- I am asking the wrong people questions.
if you paid 14,000 for just a/c I hope your home is huge.....
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American Standard/Trane, same thing. Its a tried and true design. I'd want the tech to pin point the leaks and show them to me.
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Where was Clover when that

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Actually, he was giving advise to wmmurphy when he was asking about which system to install back in late 2008. And wmmurphy posted that the final price was 15 grand when it was installed in January 2009. Which isn't out of line for a 2 stage 3 ton 16 SEER system. It was a complete install of all duct work also.

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