DIY Chatroom -  DIY Home Improvement Forum
    DIY Forum     DIY Blogs     Photos     Woodworking     Extreme How To     Advertise     Contact Us  
Go Back   DIY Chatroom - DIY Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > HVAC


CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-27-2009, 04:17 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2
Default 60 year old duct system with 4 inch ducts

My house used to have a low pressure GE oil furance. Nice alumn. ductwork, but all the runs to the boots are 4 inches. In 2001 the former owner put in a new Lennox oil furance. The fun cycled constantly, even though she had a smaller fan put in (5 inch). Now that I'm remodeling I want to switch to gas and was hoping to use the existing duct work. I understand that there MAY BE variable speed gas furnaces that will do OK with the 4 inch ducting? Some contractors have told me I don't have any options and that I must size up the ducting to 6 inch. I can't get to the majority of the ducting and I have lath and plaster, so I don't want to start tearing into the walls at this point. I don't want to purchase a new furnance and find out I am still going to have the same problem with the fan cycling etc. Any thoughts on this?

kjseattle is offline   Reply With Quote
Join DIYChatroom.com

Join the #1 DIY Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

DIYChatroom.com - Are you about to start a new home improvement task and need some help? Do you need advise on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that DIY Chatroom is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally free.

Join DIYChatroom.com - Click Here
JOIN FOR FREE


Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. DIYChatroom.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any home improvement task!
Old 06-27-2009, 04:29 PM   #2
An old Tradesmen
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lanc PA
Posts: 3,696
Default

How many 4" supplies do you have.
beenthere is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2009, 05:43 PM   #3
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2
Default

Upstairs: 8 o- 4 inch
downstairs: 3 - 4 inch
downstairs: 2 -6 x12 robbers
4 return total - 6 x 12 (2 up and 2 down)

I can add some supply(s) if needed as well as returns - just don't want to switch out the 4 inch I have now. Some exposed duct work in the downstairs I could access. The house is just under 2000 square feet.
kjseattle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2009, 06:47 PM   #4
old pro
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Posts: 1,672
Default

I doubt if a ECM unit will work well with those pipes. My technical rep from Lennox has told us that some newer cheap built homes with undersized ductwork are having problems with the ECM motor not being able to find a constant speed from a lack of airflow. Causes the motor to hunt. May also void the unit warranty. We have a few of those 4" systems in Wpg and they are terrible, Sorry.

Last edited by yuri; 06-27-2009 at 06:50 PM.
yuri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2009, 07:05 PM   #5
An old Tradesmen
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lanc PA
Posts: 3,696
Default

You don't really have enough supplies for a VS blower to work riight.

Your supply static would be too high even if your furnace was only a 60,000BTU.
beenthere is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2009, 11:08 PM   #6
Member
 
sktn77a's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 83
Default

How big a furnace do you need? If you have enough 4" ducts, it could work, but currently you have 132 sq in of supply from the 4" ducts and that's less than half of what you would need for a 70,000BTU furnace. Not familiar with the term "robber" but if it's a supply duct, you are getting another 144 sq in of supply from those. Problem with 4" ductwork with a gas furnace is the velocities will be quite high, producing drafts and noise.

Last edited by sktn77a; 06-27-2009 at 11:11 PM.
sktn77a is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


More On This Topic

Houses that are built on slabs of concrete with the heating and cooling ducts buried below ground sometimes have problems with water in the heating ducts. Because of the potential problem with molds and mildews, you must remove this water as soon as... Read More »

I'm Melina and welcome to Expert Village. Today, I am going to show you how to make screen print design on a t-shirt. The first things that you are going to need a regular piece of paper, where you?re going to draw a design. You?re going to need waxy... Read More »

Newer, more energy efficient homes have been constructed to seal out the outdoor environment almost 100 percent. This condition allows loaded, stale air to accumulate unless windows are opened. Open windows allow some of the heating or air conditioning... Read More »

Hi! My name is Joshua Lindsey with CFM Building Science Solutions. On behalf of Expert Village, we are doing a frame walk and insulation inspection on this home. The thickness of our insulation is going to make a difference in the R-Value. So if we have... Read More »

This is an easy project that not only benefits the environment, but saves you money on your power bills. Having your water heater properly insulated results is less heat loss. So all the energy is spent on heating the water you will use, not wasted in... Read More »

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Furnace Filters rjordan392 HVAC 39 04-13-2009 01:40 PM
flex duct termination issue LanterDan HVAC 2 02-12-2009 07:59 AM
Water Purification System - Maintenance Qs cjcocn Plumbing 1 11-18-2008 09:31 AM
Rehab Mess- Ducts Knocking-Furnace Vibrating drmark7 HVAC 7 03-18-2007 06:34 PM
Clean Duct System? Devil505 HVAC 9 12-07-2006 10:33 PM

Top of Page | View New Posts


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2003 - 2009 The Building Network LLC