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Old 06-01-2012, 09:57 PM   #16
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Any new bushes, fences, or enclosures near the outside unit? Has the tech checked the duct work? A partially disconnected duct, along with a refrigerant leak could cause these problems. Maybe the system could be overcharged. You may want to ask the company to send a more experienced tech.

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Old 06-02-2012, 05:55 AM   #17
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Still fighting to get action taken...now they're trying to tell me it's up to code because as long as there's a 12 degree difference between outside and inside then it is up to code. Is it really that hard to check the systems coils out for a leak? Is it going to be that expensive for them? Why did all the freon come out in the first place? What an absolutely frustrating situation that could be remedied quite easily.
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Old 06-02-2012, 06:02 AM   #18
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Complain to the GC/builder. he may put pressure on the HVAC contractor. Don't know of any code saying about a 12 difference being a min requirement.
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:31 AM   #19
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You may want to elevate this to your nearest HEIL distributor. If the HVAC contractor is an authorized HEIL dealer/installer, the distributor may be able to put some pressure on the HVAC contractor. It will also get the situation into the records of an entity above the contractor in the event you switch HVAC contractors and they discover the problem was a covered service that the guy you currently have is unwilling or unable to diagnose. Remember; a warranty and/or a service plan is only as good as the tech performing the service.

Find your nearest distributor at: http://www.heil-hvac.com/dealer.asp?distributor=yes You can copy and paste the link or just search for HEIL Distributors.

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Old 06-02-2012, 12:15 PM   #20
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That is a GREAT idea that I may end up having to do...I put a call into my house builder so we'll see what he says. Thanks for the info and idea!
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Old 06-02-2012, 12:36 PM   #21
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ask them to fax you a copy of the S/U sheet showing the microns held after a vac pull and how long was it pulled and held....and the winner is??? or did the tech blow freon thru the system and charged it up with the cell phone going off from the SM wondering why is so long on that start up $$$$$$= profit new piped up system should pull down like a you know what on a friday night during the coffee or lunch break

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Still fighting to get action taken...now they're trying to tell me it's up to code because as long as there's a 12 degree difference between outside and inside then it is up to code. Is it really that hard to check the systems coils out for a leak? Is it going to be that expensive for them? Why did all the freon come out in the first place? What an absolutely frustrating situation that could be remedied quite easily.
only way freon comes out of a system that I know is ...its leaking..
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:56 PM   #23
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Or an intentional/accidental discharge...
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Well, I think I'm in trouble here...

So I call the local HEIL distributor and talk to the technical service advisor and describe the problem as I did here in my first post. His response, "Oh, you've got a leak." He then gets my model number and asks for the name of the contractor that put it in. He says he'll call me back...

He calls me back 5 minutes later and says he talked to the tech that put it in and troubleshot it. He says that when the tech was there it was a "hot" day and thats why it was only cooling 1 degree per hour. He then adds that the tech is a "good" guy. UGH!

So the tech is coming back to work on it again. I was hoping that some of you folks tell me systematically what you would do if you were the tech coming to work on the problem. Thanks in advance!
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:28 PM   #25
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On a hot day. My A/C will barely pull down 1 degree an hour. However, it can maintain 72 in my house when its 98 outside.
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I would kill for 72 on a 98 degree day. On a recent day my unit started at 73 but went up to 76 and it was not quite 90 out
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Use a refrigerant leak detector and find the leak. Pump the system down, nitrogen pressure test the line, ensuring the leak is found with the use of leak detector liquid/soapy water where the leak detector found it. Fix leak. Triple evacuation and finally release the refrigerant and charge the system.

There should not have a been a single leak once installed, he should have performed a nitrogen pressure test at time of install, plain and simple. It shouldn't matter if it was -100 or 100+ degrees. As a matter of fact it doesn't.

Start looking for another tech for future use but be warned, as with all things cheap isn't good and good isn't cheap.
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Use a refrigerant leak detector and find the leak. Pump the system down, nitrogen pressure test the line, ensuring the leak is found with the use of leak detector liquid/soapy water where the leak detector found it. Fix leak. Triple evacuation and finally release the refrigerant and charge the system.

There should not have a been a single leak once installed, he should have performed a nitrogen pressure test at time of install, plain and simple. It shouldn't matter if it was -100 or 100+ degrees. As a matter of fact it doesn't.

Start looking for another tech for future use but be warned, as with all things cheap isn't good and good isn't cheap.
Thank you! That's exactly the kind of information I'm looking for. I'll let you know how it goes when he comes back.
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Use a refrigerant leak detector and find the leak. Pump the system down, nitrogen pressure test the line, ensuring the leak is found with the use of leak detector liquid/soapy water where the leak detector found it. Fix leak. Triple evacuation and finally release the refrigerant and charge the system.

There should not have a been a single leak once installed, he should have performed a nitrogen pressure test at time of install, plain and simple. It shouldn't matter if it was -100 or 100+ degrees. As a matter of fact it doesn't.

Start looking for another tech for future use but be warned, as with all things cheap isn't good and good isn't cheap.
If he says that he cannot find a leak, should I still insist on pumping down the system and tech arching? Or would that only make sense if he does find the leak? Thanks.
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Absolutely...

He needs to charge with nitro like Doc Holliday said. Needs to charge to the prescribed test pressure and go to lunch. Check to see if pressure is holding upon return. Then he needs to pull into a vacuum and leave it for the same amount of time, then check it. If either of the pressures fail to remain the same, there is a leak. If you have to keep adding refrigerant, and no one has touched the system since the last time it was charged, as ben's plumbing stated...there is a leak.

How did the tech look for the leak? Did he put any dye in the system? Suggest to the tech to remove his gauges during the waiting period and spray those connections with soapy water. Leaking valve cores are the hardest to find because the gauges essentially take them out of the system.

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