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dankreboot 04-01-2009 01:25 PM

Tilling - w/ Weeds
 
My back yard is full of weeds (fresh and green). I wanted to till the yard, my question is: Do I have to get rid of the weeds before I till? Or would it be ok to till the ground with the weeds knowing that the weeds will grow back of course.

skipjack 04-01-2009 01:38 PM

Are you looking to seed the yard with grass?

I can tell you what my landscaper did when I had a lawn seeded. They tilled and graded the soil with weeds and all. Then sprayed RoundUp on the tilled soil, layed down a layer of topsoil and seeded. My lawn turned out beautiful.

I've been told RoundUp goes inert after 24 hours. So, if you're not going to put topsoil down: till the soil, RoundUp, wait a day or two, then seed.

Bob Mariani 04-01-2009 02:40 PM

Till the soil with the weeds. Use a pre-emergent crab grass and weed killer to prevent the weeds from returning. I use 12-24-11 w/ Tupersan. It is specifcally a pre-emergent crab grass preventor when also planting new grass seeds.

kimberland30 04-02-2009 01:51 PM

We tilled with the weeds, and mixed in a weed and seed fertilizer into the topsoil/compost that we put down. A week later we planted grass.

downunder 04-02-2009 07:50 PM

Why the tilling? Are you going to re-seed or sod? If so, what lawn?
Where are you?

johnnyboy 04-02-2009 09:28 PM

I sprayed my entire yard with roundup, when the grass turned yellow, had the whole thing raked out and immediately seeded, grass came right in and no crab grass/weeds (yet)

Kap 04-02-2009 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skipjack (Post 253425)
Are you looking to seed the yard with grass?

I can tell you what my landscaper did when I had a lawn seeded. They tilled and graded the soil with weeds and all. Then sprayed RoundUp on the tilled soil, layed down a layer of topsoil and seeded. My lawn turned out beautiful.

I've been told RoundUp goes inert after 24 hours. So, if you're not going to put topsoil down: till the soil, RoundUp, wait a day or two, then seed.

Spraying roundup on soil is a waste of roundup. Roundup works through uptake from the leaves. You're better off spraying first, waiting a few days and then tilling.

And roundup=inert after 24-48 hours.

But if you must spray Roundup on your soil, buy Kleenup pro or Honcho. It's the exact smae thing at half the price.

AndrewF 04-03-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kap (Post 254319)
Spraying roundup on soil is a waste of roundup. Roundup works through uptake from the leaves. You're better off spraying first, waiting a few days and then tilling.

And roundup=inert after 24-48 hours.

But if you must spray Roundup on your soil, buy Kleenup pro or Honcho. It's the exact smae thing at half the price.

I agree, spraying roundup AFTER you tilled is pointless.

downunder 04-06-2009 07:16 PM

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I agree, spraying roundup AFTER you tilled is pointless.
Just a point to ponder. IF the soil is completely raked clean, this is correct. Some people go ahead and spray just as a precaution in case there are small bits of weed that will sprout back up, or even pieces of bermuda roots.
So I wouldn't say carte blanche that it is pointless.


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