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Old 01-14-2012, 11:19 PM   #16
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Ok good idea. I also thought about that "hydro seed" stuff. Any opinions on having that blown on?

I don't have to seed Monday anyway. once it is all set up, I can do it really any day.
I've never done hydro-seeding, but I've seen it done and what I saw was impressive.

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Old 01-14-2012, 11:22 PM   #17
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I've never done hydro-seeding, but I've seen it done and what I saw was impressive.
Interesting. Time to see how much this stuff costs. I would think it will be more than seed but less than sod....

It looks like I can buy 5 lbs of tall fescue for 25 bucks. Should cover my 1600 sqft.
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:28 PM   #18
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Read some of the older post and see how often this happens.
People completly gut a whole bathroom and have no tools and no idea on how to put it all back together. It's what they saw on TV so it must be ok. Some how they think you can do a whole bathroom in a weekend.
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:39 PM   #19
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Read some of the older post and see how often this happens.
People completly gut a whole bathroom and have no tools and no idea on how to put it all back together. It's what they saw on TV so it must be ok. Some how they think you can do a whole bathroom in a weekend.
I have had a plan. The order of which I will execute this plan has just been tweaked due to DrHicks help.

I've also laid sprinklers before, but never made up my own layout. I figure just make sure I've got 2x or 3x overlap and I should be good. If I need to change something down the line, oh well. I'll dig it up and modify it to the best I can. Learning experience if I don't get it totally right at first.

I can see that a lot of people start home improvements before even the slightest thought. This was not something I woke up this morning and decided to do.
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:29 PM   #20
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Update from the day.....

I finished up rototilling and mixing in some manure, peat moss and gypsum. Then, rented a lawn roller when I returned the rototiller. Started flattening and this is what I ended with for the day.

The center part that isn't touched was a big soggy from watering and tilling. So I'm going to let it dry overnight and hopefully I can get that set tomorrow.



AND! One reason I rototilled was because when I bought the house the lawn was completely infested with gopher holes. And what do you know! As I was flattening, my dog was focusing on a specific area pretty intensly. So I walked over to see what he was interested in and there was a nice big gopher coming thru the surface! One slam with the rake in his area pretty much took care of him.

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Old 01-15-2012, 06:34 PM   #21
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Dead gopher = a good day!
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Yeah! I got one only tho. I looked back out at my lawn a few minutes ago and there is a huge mound right in the middle of the flat area. Wtf. War is on.
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Old 01-15-2012, 08:08 PM   #23
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Some updates. I have 3 valves. I am dedicating two to the grass and 1 to the drip system that will be going around the outside next.

6 total sprinklers. I am using the Rain Bird AG-5. Three along the back and three along the front. I should be able to have them cross over and get at least double coverage everywhere that is grass. Some places 3-4 times.

Here is my first trench. I wasn't able to get this finished yesterday as it gets dark so darn early. So hopefully I won't have to work late again tomorrow and I can finish with some light.




Here is my second trench. It is complete and I'll just need to tweak the height of the heads and the direction and range of motion for each head.





This is a closer up of the AG-5 head. These things cover some ground!

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Yeah, I may ask my neighbors tomorrow to see what they did. Or ask at home depot what they have seen for the area.

I tilled the whole thing because I tried digging and the dirt was super hard. I guess I could have just gotten a trencher.....oh well now tho!
For packed dirt you can aerate, its a fun machine to run . For gophers though, I dont know I think Bill tried everything on those things and never could get rid of his. However tilling in some good mix was a great idea as you can always improve soil conditions. I cut some sand into my soil because it has a lot of clay so it helps with drainage.

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Price, for one.

Also though (this is an observation from back in the law-care days) it seemed to me that newly sodded lawns took a LONG time to grow deep roots. The sodded lawns we mowed were always the first to brown out in the heat of the summer.


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I would have to agree, I use to be a lawn care guy and I saw the same. Customers that seeded their lawn had a tough first year or two but the roots grew with the grass. By year three they had green year round where the sod lawns were browning out. I have a seeded lawn and I feel prouder of my lawn knowing I made it.
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I would have to agree, I use to be a lawn care guy and I saw the same. Customers that seeded their lawn had a tough first year or two but the roots grew with the grass. By year three they had green year round where the sod lawns were browning out. I have a seeded lawn and I feel prouder of my lawn knowing I made it.
There is NOTHING worse than mowing first-year seeded grass! Instant green putty.
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Hey guys,

A few things just to put my two cents in. I am certified irrigation tech and a golf course superintendent. I would never seed over sod. Sod is much more stable, easier to put down and establishes quicker. As far as it burning out faster in the summer, he just put in an irrigation system, use it. Try to get the most even throw with your heads as you can, otherwise you may end up with soaked areas and dried areas. I would spring for some good rich topsoil over top of what you have, something like a compost mix before sodding. If you aeriify and fertilize properly while limiting your water to deep and infrequent watering you will grow great roots with any grass.
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What size tiller did you use & rental cost?
How did you trench?

I have a very similar size yard and in the same condition as yours with gophers to deal with.
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I see you have two different size pipes, what is the fat one for and what size is that?
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What size tiller did you use & rental cost?
How did you trench?

I have a very similar size yard and in the same condition as yours with gophers to deal with.
The tiller was like a 24" one that i rented from Home Depot. I think it was like 80 bucks for the day. It wasn't that bad, but working it was pretty rough. Definitely soak the area with water for a few hours prior to tilling.

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I see you have two different size pipes, what is the fat one for and what size is that?
The smaller pipe (3/4") is for the irrigation. The larger pipe (3") is for the drainage.

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