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cprao 06-29-2011 09:55 PM

Starter Fertilizer for Sod
 
I prepared the soil for sod. I added compost and tilled the soil..
Put the sprinklers.. currently levelling the soil to lay down sod.

Now my question - does it make sense to sprinkle starter fertilizer ? If yes, what brand and how much quantity ? my lawn square footage is around 600.

Please help.

chrisn 06-30-2011 07:05 AM

Ask the people that are supplying the sod.

Mr Chips 06-30-2011 10:12 AM

I've always used starter fertilizer when laying sod. I don't think the brand matters that much, and you're better off using a little less than you would with seed (IMO) but the real key is watering it lightly EVERY DAY for the first few weeks so that the roots take hold. I also made a habit of walking on it regularly in the begining, to make sure i got good contact with the soil underneath

CoachDave 06-30-2011 06:59 PM

Sod starter fertilizer
 
Howdy Cprao,

When grading the soil for sod it's a good idea to make sure there is a slight grade away from the house for water to runoff.

After you've laid the sod out you will want to water twice a day for about 10 days.

You actually do not need starter fertilizer for newly planted sod. Starter fertilizer is for grass seed and is not essential.

I usually would wait at least 6 weeks to even think about fertilizer.

Coach Dave

cprao 06-30-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachDave (Post 677479)
Howdy Cprao,

When grading the soil for sod it's a good idea to make sure there is a slight grade away from the house for water to runoff.

After you've laid the sod out you will want to water twice a day for about 10 days.

You actually do not need starter fertilizer for newly planted sod. Starter fertilizer is for grass seed and is not essential.

I usually would wait at least 6 weeks to even think about fertilizer.

Coach Dave

Thank you very much for all your replies.

I took a note of your points. I have one more question. I am planning to put sod this Saturday.. I was told staggerring technic will be used for laying down the sod. Can some one point me to any specific and detailed video on this technic.. I searched in youtube.. found many.. still did not answer my question.

user1007 07-01-2011 10:10 AM

I think a balanced, timed release, fertilizer not a bad idea under new sod but you don't want something that will just leach away before the roots hit it.

I would roll sod in contact with the topsoil and then do everything I could not to walk on it for as long as you can resist. Footprints will just divot the spongy soil with whatever you weigh on the footprint.

In summer, you want a rolling and watering team to start in the minute you get the sod laid. You do no want to wait all day to start watering.

Staggering technique just means to offset the "joints" in the sod like in a brick pattern so you don't end up with square seams along large expanses.

Especially in summer, know your sod harvest date and make sure your supplier is standing behind it. If you are laying on the weekend and the sod was harvested yesterday and rolled you are in a race. Remember, you are dealing with a relatively fragile plant transplant product---two or three inches total of top growth and spongy sawed off roots. Be careful not to overwater or you will just rot the roots. But be mindful that establishing sod lawns can take much more water than seed ones.

Water early enough in the day the sod is dry overnight so as to minimize attraction to insects and disease spores. Mow tall. Do ask the sod supplier when to start fertilizing and with what after the sod has established.

cprao 07-01-2011 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sdsester (Post 677833)
I think a balanced, timed release, fertilizer not a bad idea under new sod but you don't want something that will just leach away before the roots hit it.

I would roll sod in contact with the topsoil and then do everything I could not to walk on it for as long as you can resist. Footprints will just divot the spongy soil with whatever you weigh on the footprint.

In summer, you want a rolling and watering team to start in the minute you get the sod laid. You do no want to wait all day to start watering.

Staggering technique just means to offset the "joints" in the sod like in a brick pattern so you don't end up with square seams along large expanses.

Especially in summer, know your sod harvest date and make sure your supplier is standing behind it. If you are laying on the weekend and the sod was harvested yesterday and rolled you are in a race. Remember, you are dealing with a relatively fragile plant transplant product---two or three inches total of top growth and spongy sawed off roots. Be careful not to overwater or you will just rot the roots. But be mindful that establishing sod lawns can take much more water than seed ones.

Water early enough in the day the sod is dry overnight so as to minimize attraction to insects and disease spores. Mow tall. Do ask the sod supplier when to start fertilizing and with what after the sod has established.

Thank you !! Hopefully.. all goes good.

cprao 07-04-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cprao (Post 677914)
Thank you !! Hopefully.. all goes good.

Finally. I have laid down the sod on Saturday.. Currently following the water instructions provided by SOD company.
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Now the questions are:
1. How do I know the sod is growing well ?
2. How do I select a lawn mower ? This is 600 sq ft area and back yard will be having 1200 sq ft gass (yet to put down).. Considering 188 sq ft area. what kind of law mower I should be buying it. ? Any thoughts ?

Mr Chips 07-05-2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cprao (Post 679609)
Now the questions are:
1. How do I know the sod is growing well ?

If it's green, it's growing. if it starts to brown, don't panic, just stick to the watering schedule the sod company gave you

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Originally Posted by cprao (Post 679609)
2. How do I select a lawn mower ? This is 600 sq ft area and back yard will be having 1200 sq ft gass (yet to put down).. Considering 188 sq ft area. what kind of law mower I should be buying it. ?

It depends on what you plan to do. Will you bag, mulch, or do both from time to time? Do you tend to take care of your stuff? No sense buying a good mower if your not the type of guy to winterize it at the end of the season.

For a small yard like yours I would go cheap for now and upgrade in a year or two if you feel the need. you could get yourself a very inexpensive mower at any retail store, and if you just run it out of gas before you put it away for the winter, check the oil once a year, and sharpen or replace the blade every couple years you'll get many years of use out of it.

cprao 07-05-2011 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Chips (Post 680260)
If it's green, it's growing. if it starts to brown, don't panic, just stick to the watering schedule the sod company gave you



It depends on what you plan to do. Will you bag, mulch, or do both from time to time? Do you tend to take care of your stuff? No sense buying a good mower if your not the type of guy to winterize it at the end of the season.

For a small yard like yours I would go cheap for now and upgrade in a year or two if you feel the need. you could get yourself a very inexpensive mower at any retail store, and if you just run it out of gas before you put it away for the winter, check the oil once a year, and sharpen or replace the blade every couple years you'll get many years of use out of it.

I am sure this may be a basic question.. But what is bag or mulch ?
I would like to mow myself instead of hiring a guy.

Mr Chips 07-06-2011 07:24 AM

Bagging is when you use the mower's bag to catch the clippings.
Mulching is when you let the clippings fall back on the lawn.

Most mowers on the market will allow you to to either ( and switch back and forth) but there are some mowers that are better at one than the other.

I usually cut my lawn at the highest setting. I bag the first cutting of the year as that's when i have the most weeds in my yard, then I mulch for the rest of the year. I never water my lawn, and barely even fertilize, and my lawn stays almost as green as my neighbors who use lawn services and sprinkler systems. I am a big believer in mulching

cprao 07-06-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Chips (Post 680646)
Bagging is when you use the mower's bag to catch the clippings.
Mulching is when you let the clippings fall back on the lawn.

Most mowers on the market will allow you to to either ( and switch back and forth) but there are some mowers that are better at one than the other.

I usually cut my lawn at the highest setting. I bag the first cutting of the year as that's when i have the most weeds in my yard, then I mulch for the rest of the year. I never water my lawn, and barely even fertilize, and my lawn stays almost as green as my neighbors who use lawn services and sprinkler systems. I am a big believer in mulching

Ok. Basically you are using the clippings as a fertilizer by letting them fall back..

In my case what should be your advise.. when should I eve..
n think of mowing.. we laid down sod on last Saturday.

Mr Chips 07-07-2011 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cprao (Post 681189)
Ok. Basically you are using the clippings as a fertilizer by letting them fall back..
.

Correct. If you mow when it's dry and use a decent mulching mower with a sharp blade you won't get clumping, and won't even see the clippings ( except on the driveway)

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Originally Posted by cprao (Post 681189)
when should I even think of mowing.. we laid down sod on last Saturday.

Don't mow it until it needs mowing. I'd wait a minimum of 2-3 weeks, then see how easy it is to pull up. If it seems like it's rooted then should be ok to mow. Plan to mow at a time when your lawn should be relatively dry. Mow it high, and cut it on a diagnal path. It sounds like you'll be using a new mower, but if not make sure the mower you are using has a sharp blade so you are cutting and not pulling/ripping. ( Even if you do buy a new mower you might want to get the blade sharpened before you use it )

CoachDave 07-07-2011 03:19 PM

Howdy Cprao,
It's great your taking an interest in your lawn. You'll find once you've got a system down that it won't be too difficult or time consuming. Here are my guidelines for a healthy lawn.

Always use your own lawnmower so as not to introduce other problems to your lawn. When you stop mowing for winter there is a gas additive to stabilize the gas so it doesn't go bad.

Mulching is good and and should only be done twice a month to avoid "thatch" with is a layer of organic material that could thin out your lawn. Mulching also re-seeds.

Fertilizing is only good when a lawn is established. Over fertilizing will not give you good long term results.

Always water after you:fertilize, cut, and seed. The exception is after you've sprayed an insecticide or fungicide...this is so you don't dilute the active chemical.

Lastly, when watering, only about 30 minutes per week is advisable. This is because grass roots chase water. So twice a week at about 15 minutes or three times a week for 10 minutes.

I hope this helps you achieve the lawn you want.

Here is a link of lawn ideas I did: http://community.homedepot.com/t5/vi...KDF7jFOD5ttGvA


Happy Gardening,

Coach Dave

Mr Chips 07-07-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachDave (Post 681475)

Mulching is good and and should only be done twice a month to avoid "thatch" with is a layer of organic material that could thin out your lawn. Mulching also re-seeds.

I think this is an old wives tale. I mulch everytime except for first cutting, haven't dethatched in over 5 years, I have no issues with thatch

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Originally Posted by CoachDave (Post 681475)



Lastly, when watering, only about 30 minutes per week is advisable. This is because grass roots chase water. So twice a week at about 15 minutes or three times a week for 10 minutes.

I disagree with the short interval/ often watering school of thought. You want your roots to run deep. if you only water for 10 minutes every other day, you teach the roots to stay shallow. Water only when you need it, and when you do give it a good deep soak.


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