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Old 12-14-2008, 11:08 AM   #16
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I have a German Shepherd that lives in the house (my wife's "big baby").
We have one of the exterior door areas fenced off with those 6' high X 10' long portable, light weight aluminum tube frame and aluminum chain link fence sections.
This enclosure (one side is the house itself and the other three are the fencing with two side gates) cost about $300 and I put it up myself in short order. It just clamps together with clamps and bolts that come with it. Very easy one-person installation.
The enclosure is 20' X 20'. It originally had grass, but I eventually killed it out and have pine straw scattered over the ground that I refresh from time to time as needed. I usually shovel it out daily over the fence into an bushy area outside of it where no one ever goes.
You can get "roof" framing for tarps over it (ours is under shade trees most of the day) and there is 6' X 14" deck for shade too. A dog outdoors needs lots of water and shade in hot weather and a warm doghouse in the winter.
Works for me.
I hate to see dogs abused. I now have an adopted little female "mutt" about a mile down the road. It was a puppy dumped near a couple of migrant labor houses last Spring, and survived on migrant garbage until almost Thanksgiving when they all left the farm until next Spring, leaving her stranded with no food or water. On top of that, she was pregnant. I started feeding and watering her a couple of days after the last of them left. She had her puppies a week ago on Dec. 7 back in an old locked-up barn (she can get under the big doors...I can't).
She's got every strike against her on the planet, but I can't let her and her pups starve. She not much more than a pup herself. I think that the farm owner has the dog warden after her in any case, tho, but he knows that I'm feeding her. We'll see. So it goes.
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Old 12-14-2008, 01:08 PM   #17
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Woah, woah, woah.

I do NOT plan on forgetting about my dog, that's one of the things I hate. This is something for when family that's allergic to dogs comes down. If there's one thing that I hate it's peoples attitude that they can just get rid of an animal that they chose as part of their family so carelessly. Most of the time my dog will sleep with me, but for the few weeks out of a year that family comes down, she needs somewhere to sleep. Not to mention I live in Miami, so during hurricane season whether some family is here or not, she will be sleeping inside.

Story of how I got my dog is similar to the above person's actually. She was one of the pups from a litter of the careless neighbors across the street, she's a pure breed lab, and her and her brothers and sisters were feeding off of garbage for a few weeks, we called animal control to pick them up, but they kept telling us that they'd have to wait, at one point one of them (ours) finally came into our yard, away from the others, so we took her up. The other ones wouldn't leave their mother, and it was in someone else's yard so we'd be trespassing, we're hoping they went to a good shelter, as I've heard a lot of them will just put the dogs to sleep but -sigh-...

In any case, I digress, I don't plan on leaving her outside. At the moment I only have one family member that's actually scared of dogs and her mother comes like once in a blue moon, and besides that only a few that are allergic to dogs and they all live in New Jersey, so they only come down for the holidays. The fence is not meant to be a dwelling for her, it's meant so that when she goes outside, and she's pooping everywhere it's in a more confined area that I can go ahead and clean up without spending 2 hours walking around the backyard to do. It doesn't help that we have tons of poisonous spiders around here, so when you walk around you have to be careful and you have to also make sure to smack down any webs as to avoid walking into them...
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Old 12-14-2008, 03:02 PM   #18
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both our dogs were 'throwaways' too, i wouldn't have it any other way.

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Old 12-14-2008, 04:54 PM   #19
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Go to Walmart and get a pooper scooper, a bucket with a plastic bad and do poop patrol everyday. No mess put the bag in the trash once twice a week.
We have 11 dogs and it works great if you do it daily.
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:47 PM   #20
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Problem with doing it daily is that I do fulltime college and part time work.

Mondays: School/work 7AM~3PM
Tuesdays: 10AM~7PM
Wednesdays 7AM~7PM
Thursdays: 10AM~7PM
Friday: 7AM~7PM

Toss in time spent with my family, and time playing with her, and there isn't really much time to pick it up daily, if I pick it up on like Monday, Thursdays, and weekends it shouldn't be too big of a deal, but if she has the whole backyard, and since everyone else in the house pretty much refuses to do it, going back there daily, dealing with spiders, while cleaning up poop, can be quite a bad thing. It doesn't help that I get nauseous if I handle poop in the mornin'

EDIT: I've seen those pooper scoopers before in a few stores, they seem pretty cool, do they work good? The design seemed cool, but it looked kinda... weak.
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:04 PM   #21
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we put up a kennel that connects to one of the back doors, the only time one of the dogs slept under the stars is when he took off for seven weeks, long story, anyway, the kennel is two fold, one to give the dogs a safe outside area, the other is to of course keep the droppings in a contained area, no spiders but hate like heck to miss one and only find it when you are mowing the lawn. As I said earlier, I rake the pen then use a dustpan and trowel to pick up to put in a garbage bag, with two its tough to pick up at drop off time, and still do your regular daily routine. Also because of one of the dogs nature, I stopped using a lead out in the yard, made me nervous he would somehow break it and take off and say hello to some unsuspecting passer by.
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:47 AM   #22
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If you think you don't like going back there think about the dog they don't like it either. The pooper scooper works great and ours with 11 dogs lasts a bout 6-8 months. Time will take about 5 min. if you do it daily or less. Make the family do it. It is part of having a pet.
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:58 AM   #23
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With just one dog,once a week is plenty,11 dogs,daily would be a necessity!
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:27 PM   #24
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The problem is that my brother is only 5, and he's pretty clumsy, so besides that there's only my mom and she refuses to do it.

If we all did it together I'm sure it could be done in under 10 minutes, but everyone else entirely refuses, and to be honest I don't like it either but it looks like I'm gonna be the one to have to do it.

I'm gonna see if I go pick a pooper scooper up today, like the one in the picture earlier, and head back there with a big garbage bag. Hopefully once a week will be enough, but I gotta go find a good enclosure as well, since walking the whole yard looking for poop just makes the whole process longer.

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I've seen these weird things that are like grass and you set them in a thing (that they come with) similar to a sandbox, that the dogs are supposed to poop in to make it easier to clean up. Anyone use these and note any success? I've also seen 'dog litter' (similar to kitty litter) but that seems like it would probably not work too! D=

I mean I've seen people buy them, but most people I saw were doing it for the first time, so I've yet to be able to run into someone who's had success with it, and ask them how they did it.
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maybe bury a garbage can to the rim and make a doggie compost pot? the lid should keep the smell in and just rake the poop in?
a steel one with a liner should be strong enough should the dog walk on it.

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Old 12-15-2008, 05:44 PM   #26
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Ah, thanks, that reminds me...

I'm guessing anything with a lid should work though, but he said for the one he has in order for it to work he has to fill it with water and some crap so that it properly composts...
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:39 AM   #27
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:00 AM   #28
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That's simply horrible. Just like I'd never want a colonoscopy and to be left with a "Poop sack" I'd never want a dog to do have to. Honestly...
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:39 PM   #29
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Dont use pavers,lotta work,like the one fella said,use white rubber roofing,not black,you'll burn her paws off,to cover 2/3 of the area,but give her some natural surface.With the money you save,you can build/buy a doghouse.Rubber about 75$,pavers 500$,cement 1200$,A warm doghouse...PRICELESS!!
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:35 AM   #30
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Not sure I catch your drift. Use rubber roofing as a floor? Or just give her a roof area out of rubber, fencer her in, and leave the grass?

I guess a roof would be a pretty smart idea. The area I had in mind rarely gets any sun, we used to use it to grow stuff but the only thing that would grow really were tomatoes, because the walls were pretty tall. (I know dog poop = no more growing, don't plan on planting there anymore).

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