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Old 09-14-2010, 09:03 PM   #1
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do I need to get rid of old sod? Front lawn gets a lot of sun, was going to put down a 3 seed rye blend, I was told to rototill the the old sod , then aerate, then put down layer of topsoil and seed. Are all this steps needed

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Rototill and aerate? Where are you getting your advice from?

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neighbor a landscaper, that's what he told me.. Talk to me what should be done, thats why I am on here. Looking for some advice on what to do....
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neighbor a landscaper, that's what he told me.. Talk to me what should be done, thats why I am on here. Looking for some advice on what to do....

Rototill.
Rake smooth.
Seed.
Light Rake.
spread thin layer of compost.
water the bejeesus out of it(keep it moist) daily until established.

OR.

Rent a slit-seeder and use it to seed.
compost.
Water.
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I was told to rototill the the old sod , then aerate, then put down layer of topsoil and seed. Are all this steps needed
NOPE!
I see, the neighbor is a landscaper who needs the work.

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Rototill.
Rake smooth.
Seed.
Light Rake.
spread thin layer of compost.
water the bejeesus out of it(keep it moist) daily until established.
A layer of compost won't hurt it, but I never have. Just depends on how much extra $$ you have. I WOULD put an application of "starter" fertilizer- Low N, higher P, and a fair amount of K. Something like a 10-20-15, 18-24-12. At the very least, put down some super phosphate 0-15-0.

Keep it moist but I'm not sure how much "bejeesus" is.
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what about the area of my lawn that is still green and living. How do I implement a change from the sod to the 3 blend rye... My lawn is half dead, the other half is spotty. Do I still rototill that and proceeded as instructed
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Use a garden rake to loosen the soil in the spotty parts.

If it's hard-packed , water it well and come back the next day with a rake.

A thin layer of straw will help hold the moisture once planted.

Faithfully water it (lightly ) until it is well established.

Starter fertilizer is helpful
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Use a garden rake to loosen the soil in the spotty parts.

If it's hard-packed , water it well and come back the next day with a rake.

A thin layer of straw will help hold the moisture once planted.

Faithfully water it (lightly ) until it is well established.

Starter fertilizer is helpful
This is close--very, very close. About the only thing I would do differently is cover with peat moss instead of straw. I believe I have stated this before, but whenever you use straw, there is the possibility of it becoming moldy, which can kill new grass crowns. I would go with peat moss, instead, because you would avert the mold risk, plus peat moss retains water.

I suppose that Rototilling, first and foremost, would not be a bad idea either, followed by a good raking to level the surface area. I do not see how aeration would fit into this scenario, though.
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but whenever you use straw, there is the possibility of it becoming moldy,

NEVER had that happen!
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NOPE!
I see, the neighbor is a landscaper who needs the work.



A layer of compost won't hurt it, but I never have. Just depends on how much extra $$ you have. I WOULD put an application of "starter" fertilizer- Low N, higher P, and a fair amount of K. Something like a 10-20-15, 18-24-12. At the very least, put down some super phosphate 0-15-0.

Keep it moist but I'm not sure how much "bejeesus" is.
Compost is free here, you just have to go load it up in your truck at the city garage. cheaper than both straw and peat moss, and does the same thing.
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NEVER had that happen!
You see, as everyone knows, hay and straw begin develop rot and mold within 24-hours of being baled, and these are precisely the type of pathogens and fungi that a person would want to keep away from recently sown seed and grass crowns. Moreover, unlike peat moss, straw does absolutely nothing for moisture/water retention.

Now if you want to engage in this practice, by all means, proceed. And if you want to lampoon my efforts on this thread, you have your pleasure. However, when it comes to advising others who have submitted serious inquiries on the proper way to do things, I like the idea of being responsible--not irresponsible.

Again, peat moss is ideal. In fact, I would use a thin layer of topsoil or even shredded (and wet) newsprint before I would use straw. Any professional will tell you this.

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I would address these points but this is beginning to sound like a grandiose delusional disorder. Having worked in a government facility for nearly thirty years, I got tired of dealing with these personalities and thus changed careers.
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I would address these points but this is beginning to sound like a grandiose delusional disorder. Having worked in a government facility for nearly thirty years, I got tired of dealing with these personalities and thus changed careers.
I am glad you capitulated. I was not about to because the method I am prescribing is supported by science, as well as common sense. I have never had a lawn fail on me.

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