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Old 02-05-2012, 02:43 PM   #1
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Patio sitting walls: how-to's and are they sturdy?


It's finished my patio (thanks to all who opin'd on the project).

I need a sitting wall to sit just outside the slab and run the 15' short side, turn at the corner and run another 5 ft.

Are they really strong enough to sit on? It'll be on a gravel substrate, packed.

Are there reinforcements to run inside the bars?

Looking for an affordable method or premise stone. Simple design. About 20-24" above the slab.

I've been researching. Looking for pros and cons.

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Old 02-05-2012, 02:45 PM   #2
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Btw, this is how the patio came out. I appreciated all the suggestions.
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:06 AM   #3
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It's finished my patio (thanks to all who opin'd on the project).

I need a sitting wall to sit just outside the slab and run the 15' short side, turn at the corner and run another 5 ft.

Are they really strong enough to sit on? It'll be on a gravel substrate, packed.

Are there reinforcements to run inside the bars?

Looking for an affordable method or premise stone. Simple design. About 20-24" above the slab.

I've been researching. Looking for pros and cons.

Thanks
You seem to imply that a sitting wall has some sort of set design. Like in The Three Little Pigs story, build it out of hay and it will not be strong enough, build it out of brick and it will be plenty strong to sit a whale on it.
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:27 AM   #4
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Why? A few more chairs, a few more tables and your done.
A brick wall will trap water run off. Be more maintaince.
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:35 AM   #5
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It's graded well to the corner where the wall would flank and I think a "mouse hole" at the bottom of the vertex would drain fine.

I'm putting ez drain channels immediately behind the wall in the grass.

I just wondered if the walls needed rebar or the like to secure them to the ground.
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I have helped a friend do a few around his and his brothers house. He owns a landscape company so he knows what he is doing. He uses landscape block adhesive for the sitting walls, some manufactures have a pin system that you use. He hasn't had a problem with them.
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What about mortar on the concrete blocks?

Would that be stronger than adhesive? I'm covering it with stones of some sort.
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Landscapers like mortar because it is easier. Masons prefer mortar because it is more compatible with brick and block. For compression loads, mortar is stronger. For lateral loads some block and a little rebar/grout is best since you can anchor it much better to a foundation.

Where is the world are you hiding? Since there was no location listed and without location/climate all you will get is guesses. That has a definite effect on what and acceptable base/foundation is best.

What type of masonry units (hollow block, retaining wall block or brick)are you using?

Since you mentioned going up to 24" high with a stone exterior, you will need something better than gravel for stability, especially in a cold climate.

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