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mike-g 03-29-2011 11:50 AM

New Homeowner, looking for advice
 
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Hey guys new member here and new homeowner. My wife and I moved into our
House a year ago and when we did most of the backyard looked great. Then disaster struck. We found out that our big beautiful oak had been hit by lighting the year before we moved in. Branches and part of the tree started to fall so we ended up spending most of our lawn budget on cutting down the tree.

Fast forward to now. We have a big area where the tree was that needs grass, a large area of these purplish weed looking things and many areas of dead grass that's probably from the dog. Does anyone have any ideas or solutions to tackle all of this?

Also I'm not quite sure what kind of grass I have. Is it maybe Bermuda?

chrisn 03-29-2011 05:30 PM

If it were mine, I would Round Up the whole mess, roto till and plant new seed. Lots of work but that's what I am seeing.:eek:

mike-g 03-30-2011 02:08 PM

You wouldn't try to do anything first before killing off the whole yard?

mike-g 03-31-2011 04:37 PM

Could really use some more advice on this..

chrisn 03-31-2011 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mike-g (Post 620076)
You wouldn't try to do anything first before killing off the whole yard?

Like what?

handy man88 03-31-2011 11:04 PM

How about renting a sod cutter to get rid of that stuff, and then putting down sod or seed/straw?

That way, you won't have to worry about waiting until the poison has diluted before you put down seed/sod.

root 03-31-2011 11:46 PM

That isn't Bermuda, Tall Fescue probably. The purple flowering weed is henbit. The cheapest thing to do is reseed the bare area. Be aware that seeding in the spring usually means that the new grass wont make it through the summer. The grass cant handle the heat. Fall is really the best time to plant. What climactic zone, use this map - http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/ushzmap.html - are you in? The dogspot is tough. dogs usually win this fight.

Shane1 04-01-2011 02:14 AM

Lots of grass seed and lots of water is the easy way out. You will be dealing with lots of weeds this summer.....buts thats just how it goes. Here would be my plan to get a yard full of grass with minimal effort and cost. I'm assuming you live in an area with a somewhat warmer climate?
Once soil temps hit 65-70*: Plant tons of warm weather grass seed. Twice as much as the bag says you need. Water and fertilize as needed and deal with weeds as they come along. Hopefully your grass will come in strong and keep the weeds in check. Plant bermuda or a hybrid. This grass will turn green every summer without having to plant new seed.
Once the weather starts to get cooler plant winter grass. Again at least twice as much as the bag says you need. Water as needed.
Next year when things start to warm up put down a granular pre-emergent. This way the pre-emergent will keep most of the weed seed from germinating, your summer lawn will come out of dormancy and give you a green lawn. Do you have an irrigation? system?

mike-g 04-04-2011 03:15 PM

I'm thinking about putting in a flower bed with a maple tree where the old oak tree once sat. Obviously i can't plant the new maple exactly where the tree was. How far does the maple need to be where the oak tree was cut down and the stump grounded out? I'm thinking this might be a nice new addition to our yard with lower matienence in trying to plant new grass

handy man88 04-04-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mike-g (Post 623208)
I'm thinking about putting in a flower bed with a maple tree where the old oak tree once sat. Obviously i can't plant the new maple exactly where the tree was. How far does the maple need to be where the oak tree was cut down and the stump grounded out? I'm thinking this might be a nice new addition to our yard with lower matienence in trying to plant new grass

What kind of maple?

Although maples are beautiful (red, sugar, silver, etc.), I wouldn't plant one on my property unless it's at least 100 ft. away.

Think maple seeds (aka helicopters), weak wood, and shallow roots.

mike-g 04-04-2011 05:47 PM

I am not sure yet. I was on the phone today with a local nursery and they told me they have a maple hybrid that is strong and grows quicker than an oak would. I thought about checking more into that but I forgot the name of it. My other idea is planting a red oak in it's place.

I want something that is going to be strong but also grows quick enough to provide us with some shade in the near coming years.

handy man88 04-04-2011 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mike-g (Post 623311)
I am not sure yet. I was on the phone today with a local nursery and they told me they have a maple hybrid that is strong and grows quicker than an oak would. I thought about checking more into that but I forgot the name of it. My other idea is planting a red oak in it's place.

I want something that is going to be strong but also grows quick enough to provide us with some shade in the near coming years.

Red oak = acorns and squirrels

A tree that grows quick gives you a tree with softer wood and less likely to hold up in a storm.

That's what they call silver maples....car smashers.

A tree that gives you large canopy to shade the house/rear will result in no grass able to grow and plenty of issues with clogged gutters and moss on the roof. A large maple, with its shallow root system, will allow your kids to do dirt biking in the backyard as they jump over the roots.

mike-g 04-04-2011 07:13 PM

What would you suggest? I am not worried about stuff on my roof or gutters as I have a two story house and it would take years for it to get that high, plus we have gutter guards that kept out the stuff from our previous oak. However I don't want shallow roots or things falling on my fence, porch, or house.

handy man88 04-04-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mike-g (Post 623358)
What would you suggest? I am not worried about stuff on my roof or gutters as I have a two story house and it would take years for it to get that high, plus we have gutter guards that kept out the stuff from our previous oak. However I don't want shallow roots or things falling on my fence, porch, or house.

If you don't mind all that stuff, then you're probably better off with some sort of oak (pin, red, etc.), but oak trees are slow growers....black gum.

mike-g 04-05-2011 09:06 AM

So how far do I need to plant it from where my old oak tree once stood?


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