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Old 03-14-2009, 04:13 PM   #31
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Well, I put in the patio.

2 friends and I worked 8 hours today in the mud and rain to get this thing finished.

We started by re-grading the slope putting most of the dirt from the top of the hill to the bottom of the hill.

Then we used a vibrating plate compacter.

Then I laid about 4 inches of gravel for the base.

Then the compacter again.

Then we used about an inch of leveling sand for the pavers. We laid a little over 100 square feet of Reading Rock pavers.

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Next I used the paver retaining border nailed every 3rd or 4th hole to line the edges.

Then I laid a little more of the leveling sand on top of the pavers.

Then the compacter again.

Finally I temporarily laid the sod along the edge of the patio. Along the highest edge I am going to use retaining block to build a small planter bed.

Overall I am very happy. The patio have about a 1" slope from high to low both left to right and top to bottom.

I am glad that this nightmare is at least a little closer to being completed.

(View from the porch --- it was way too muddy to get a yard pic after I had cleaned up. The pavers are actually a brown/earthtone color. The gray that you see is the leveling sand that I tried to get in the cracks with the compacter. I'll sweep that off when it dries and give the patio a good hand cleaning before I seal it with a glossy seal)


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Old 03-15-2009, 04:53 PM   #32
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Wasn't able to do much today as it was still very wet. I was able to clean off the patio with the pressure sprayer for a few pics. The week I am going to start on a planter bed retaining wall on both sides of the highest corner of the patio and eventually I think I am going to add some stairs.

So far so good... This thing is rock solid and there isn't one paver that is wobbly.


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Old 03-15-2009, 09:19 PM   #33
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You need to get some brick sand or polymeric sand in between those pavers or their going to move around on you.
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You need to get some brick sand or polymeric sand in between those pavers or their going to move around on you.
I have 2 bags of beige supersand waiting to go. Its too wet today to get it done --- I'll probably get it done tomorrow after I give them another day to dry.
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Old 03-16-2009, 07:34 PM   #35
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Worked my ass off today after work and was able to get the retaining wall/planter finished.

Used some sort of super human strength glue between each rock. I'm really happy with how it turned out.

Still too wet today to use the supersand. However I have 2 bags of beige waiting to go tomorrow.

Pictures were taken just before dark.


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Old 03-17-2009, 08:10 PM   #36
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Worked a little more on the patio today. Not sure that the stairs are going to work though. I'm getting pretty close to the patio underbelly while digging for the stairs and I'm worried that I will compromise the foundation of the patio if I dig any closer.

So I am left with a 4-5" gap between the stairs and the patio. I think that I am going to fill that gap in with some tightly packed dirt and plant some hardy ground cover in that gap.

If anyone else has any suggestions I am open as I don't know what to do here...

Also added the gatorsand (polymeric sand) to the joints. It was still pretty wet and soft when night came. Hopefully it will setup tomorrow.

Filled the planter with topsoil as well.


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Looks good
But I would have gone all the way to the end
Bigger is better & less grass to mow
10x10 isn't very big when you get a table, chairs & grille out there

I would go level to the patio with the stairs
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Looks good
But I would have gone all the way to the end
Bigger is better & less grass to mow
10x10 isn't very big when you get a table, chairs & grille out there

I would go level to the patio with the stairs
I hear you. I think that I am going to extend the planter box all the way to the front porch. I have enough retaining wall blocks leftover.

I am also going to build a grill pad extension off the patio to the left in front of the bay window. My new grill will go there and open up the patio for a table and chairs.

I can't go level with the patio to the stairs for 2 reasons.

1. It would require me to remove the plastic paver edging so that I could get it flush with the edge of the wall.
2. I don't want to dig immediately next to the patio because I am worried that I will weaken the base in the process and have the patio collapse in that area.

I am thinking right now of smashing in some dirt in that gap and laying a strip of sod back down to have a level area of grass between the patio and the stairs (again, about 4-5" or so).

If you have any other thoughts let me know.
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I hear you. I think that I am going to extend the planter box all the way to the front porch. I have enough retaining wall blocks leftover.

I am also going to build a grill pad extension off the patio to the left in front of the bay window. My new grill will go there and open up the patio for a table and chairs.
I can't go level with the patio to the stairs for 2 reasons.

1. It would require me to remove the plastic paver edging so that I could get it flush with the edge of the wall.
2. I don't want to dig immediately next to the patio because I am worried that I will weaken the base in the process and have the patio collapse in that area.

I am thinking right now of smashing in some dirt in that gap and laying a strip of sod back down to have a level area of grass between the patio and the stairs (again, about 4-5" or so).

If you have any other thoughts let me know.

Be careful of how close you put the BBQ to your house. I've seen more than my fair share of melted siding.
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Thanks Decks. I think that it is far enough away.

I did quite a bit today after work.

I extended the retaining wall planter to the covered porch.

I finished the stairs. I am very happy with how they turned out. I then used some of the polymeric Gatorsand and filled in the cracks.

Then I added a grill pad at the far left corner of the patio. I used some leftover pavers that I had on top of a little compacted rock that I had left over. I filled in the gaps with a little more gatorsand.

Then I replaced the sod. Did a little watering and cleanup.

The pics below show the result of the effort today. Let me know what you think...




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Well, it is finally done. It ended up being the perfect size and I am really happy how it turned out.

Let me know what you think. Your comments have been a HUGE help and I thank you for them.





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Nice, bringing the wall al the way over to the exisiting house gives it a better look. Now you just need some plants
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Finally got around to finishing my patio.

I planted a bunch of plants as you can see. I have creeping phlox along the edge of the wall which I hope will eventually start to hang over the side. I added a Red Select Japanese Maple to the right of the patio and have a new Crimson Queen in the container to the left of the planter bed.

All in all I love how it turned out.





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I'm planning on embarking on a similar project in the coming months, and just wanted to say great job.
I can only hope my patio turns out as well

(without the giant hole at the start though)


Good job, it looks great.
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I'm planning on embarking on a similar project in the coming months, and just wanted to say great job.
I can only hope my patio turns out as well

(without the giant hole at the start though)


Good job, it looks great.
Thanks! Just remember whenever possible to build up instead of digging down when dealing with a paver patio on a slope! As you can see I learned the hard way...

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