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Old 04-29-2008, 03:30 PM   #1
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Limestone or Fabric?


Books said use fabric after the gravel before the sand to avoid sand going down to the gravel and weed coming up.... for laying pavers...

but real people around me said they use limestone instead of fabric.

could anyone let me know which one is a better choice and what is the pros and cons..

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Old 04-29-2008, 08:29 PM   #2
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Use well compacted road base and not limestone or any coarse rock. Compact and place it so it is parallel to the finished surface slope (if any).

Place a uniform 1" layer of concrete sand and screed off paralle to the finished paver surface.

The sand will not get into the compacted base because there are no small voids.

Set the pavers tight together(abutting) on the sand setting bed. Spread some mason's sand on the pavers and vibrate to even the paver surface and force the sand into the paver joints.

There is really no need for fabric. If you are really concerned, spray the area with Roundup before putting down the base. Weed seeds come from the air, so it may be necessary to spray once a year if there is little traffic.

For paver information go to the Interlocking Concrete Paver Institute at icpi.org. Any good supplier should also have the same instructions available.

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do you mean those crashed rocks ... and compact them well?

concrete sand... are those sand specially for paver selling at home depot as good or better?

sorry don't know the terminology...

by the way... did you catch that big fish...I wish it happens to me , even once in my life time... I will be content...
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"Road base" goes by many different terms in different areas. It is the same material you will put under an asphalt pavement. It is not all one size, but has a range of different sizes so you can compact it to get maximum density and stability. In many areas it is mainly crushed materials.

The setting bed sand is just plain old, clean concrete sand. It is not intended to be compacted and really will not be able to be compacted. It is relatively "clean" and does not have an excess of fines in it.

The sand for sweeping and vibrating down into the joints is mason's sand, but it could also be a fine concrete sand. It should not be a crushed sand. Polymeric sands are used occasionally, but they are hard to justify.

All of the above materials are very common and could be bought in bulk. If the bagged materials at the big box were better, then they would be used for real hevy loads like at airport taxiways or streets. The bagged stuff may be the same material, but you pay a premium for the convenience.

I did catch the Lale Trout on 6# or 8# line near the Minnesota/Ontario boarder. It weighed 38# two days after catching it, so the real weight was 40-42 pounds.

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thanks for your information... concretemasonry... I will for sure not to use fabric as they are expensive too....

anyway, may be after I retire, I will be able to concentrate on fishing to catch a big one...
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