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rabih_00 09-02-2008 09:57 AM

Lights in Alan Block junior wall.
 
Hello,

I would like to install some lights on my patio steps and the retaining wall next to it. Iam using Allan block jr for the wall and the steps.

does anyone have a good tip on how I can cut a square into the block without breaking it or splitting it?

I tried drilling 6 holes to weaken the block but it still split in the end.

Any tips or ideas?

KUIPORNG 09-02-2008 01:32 PM

wow... didn't know you will go that far....
 
anyhow... there are lights just attached on the surface... no need to embeded... but then you can say you don't want that...

one option is to use angle grinder with diamond saw blade... together with other tools like drills/hammers/chisel..etc.

I doubt that AB J is good for such because they are kind of smaller than other type of retain wall blocks... drilling hole through them is real challenge... I thought of that before... but later on give up such idea because it is too much hassel.. instead I intend to install those half circle lights on its surface... well haven't done that yet... the wires were there though... may be next year for those bells and whisles..


let us know if you get this a success square hole cut....

concretemasonry 09-02-2008 01:55 PM

Rabih -

Did you contact Allan Block (E-mail or telephone)? They have run across this mant times. Most SRW licensors like to hear about the problems encountered in the field. - They have many countries to cover for support, but usually do like to hear about design challenges.

Although most SRW jobs are much bigger (up to 6 miles long ot 40' high) the basics are still important.

Dick

rabih_00 09-02-2008 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KUI****G (Post 154246)
anyhow... there are lights just attached on the surface... no need to embeded... but then you can say you don't want that...

one option is to use angle grinder with diamond saw blade... together with other tools like drills/hammers/chisel..etc.

I doubt that AB J is good for such because they are kind of smaller than other type of retain wall blocks... drilling hole through them is real challenge... I thought of that before... but later on give up such idea because it is too much hassel.. instead I intend to install those half circle lights on its surface... well haven't done that yet... the wires were there though... may be next year for those bells and whisles..


let us know if you get this a success square hole cut....


me neither, I did not think about this before, it just occure to me that if I need to do this, the right time is now.

the problem with the half circle lights (if this is the same thing I am thinking about), is that they will stick out of the step, with 2 kids, I don't think this is what i want to do. I want it flushed with the riser of the step.
I did drill 6 holes with no problem, but when trying to tap it with a hammer, it split in 2, maybe I need more holes, or look for jigsaw with a diamond blade..not sure if this even will work.

rabih_00 09-02-2008 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by concretemasonry (Post 154261)
Rabih -

Did you contact Allan Block (E-mail or telephone)? They have run across this mant times. Most SRW licensors like to hear about the problems encountered in the field. - They have many countries to cover for support, but usually do like to hear about design challenges.

Although most SRW jobs are much bigger (up to 6 miles long ot 40' high) the basics are still important.

Dick

Good advice Dick, I will give them a ring or shoot them an email.
I will let you guys know how it goes if I am sucessfull. I just thought it would add a nice touch to the finished patio.

Thanks


KUIPORNG 09-02-2008 02:36 PM

depends on the locations...of the stairs of your lights...
 
in my cases, I have large platform with round corners... my intention is to put the lights at those corner positions...one they are normally larger in tread in terms of areas... to this seems be some odd location people goes up and down the stairs... normally they go up and down from the front way... and a little bit at the side way.... but may be you are right .... I am going to give that a try anyway next year see how it goes...

la15ota 09-05-2008 11:01 AM

These are the type of lights i plan to use to light up my retaining wall.
They go inbetween the joints so no drilling is required.

http://www.integral-lighting.com/

http://www.vistapro.com/Product.aspx...tID=1&typeID=5

KUIPORNG 09-05-2008 12:20 PM

cool this is a perfect solution...
 
where to and how much for this... can I get it from Toronto.... not mega pricing I hope....

KUIPORNG 09-05-2008 12:27 PM

way too expensive...
 
called the dealer in Toronto... guess what... they said they need to charge $100 for each... man I think I can make it myself with similar concept....

unless you know how to get it from US and mail to me.... this is redicularous pricing.....

too good a product but too bad the pricing....

la15ota 09-06-2008 10:12 AM

Agree
 
Yup very expensive, in the states its $75-95 depending on the color, but then its also what the pros use.

rabih_00 09-08-2008 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KUI****G (Post 155303)
called the dealer in Toronto... guess what... they said they need to charge $100 for each... man I think I can make it myself with similar concept....

unless you know how to get it from US and mail to me.... this is redicularous pricing.....

too good a product but too bad the pricing....

So are you going to install lights? what do you have in mind?

KUIPORNG 09-08-2008 11:27 AM

Yes I will , next summer though
 
for sure not the $100 per piece one, but the $12 per piece one from HD. and it will not be embedded... probably try one and see how it looks before going for all .... embeded lights looks great but the hassle of hole cutting really stop my interests though...

if I install 6 $100 lights, it is enough to but a decent patio set.... that doesn't sound right... I am not owing a million dollars real estate, may be if I am , it starts to make sense... but if I do, I wouldn't have lift one single piece of stone myself.... would I....

anyhow... I wish the light inventor get their mind fixed up, selling may be $15 a piece and sell 1 million pieces rather than selling $100 a peice and sell 1 hundred pieces...


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