Kill Ivy

Mrguppy · 07-18-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by shumakerscott

Here is a pic of the ivy. Thanks for the suggestions but due to my location those are not options. Thanks for the replies, dorf dude...

That is english ivy add a little dish soap to whatever liquid you apply, it is a cheap sticking agent. The ivy has waxy leaves and will take a few applications to kill it. Also do not cut the ivy otherwise it will not absorb the chemical. And if all else fails gas will work lol.

Mrguppy · 07-18-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisn

It takes 2 weeks to really see the full effect of the herbicide.

not paraquat

Unless you put diquat (I believe is the name) in with the roundup. diquat is a burning agent to give the weed that dead look

shumakerscott · 07-18-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrguppy

That is english ivy add a little dish soap to whatever liquid you apply, it is a cheap sticking agent. The ivy has waxy leaves and will take a few applications to kill it. Also do not cut the ivy otherwise it will not absorb the chemical. And if all else fails gas will work lol.

I was going to hit it with WD40. The bleach didn't seem to have an effect. I didn't try the soap trick though. We have rain the next few days so I will have to wait. I'll post results in the future. Thanks for the tip, dorf dude...

Mrguppy · 07-18-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrguppy

Unless you put diquat (I believe is the name) in with the roundup. diquat is a burning agent to give the weed that dead look

Same with bleach. You may be killing the ivy but it will take some time to show. English ivy is not a easy or quick kill.

DexterII · 07-18-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shumakerscott

The bleach didn't seem to have an effect.

Whoa, slow up a bit, and give it a chance. Have a beer or two. I suspect that the bleach is a good choice under the circumstances, but it's not going to work over night. A bit different situation, but I have 20-30 yards of surplus soil that got ahead of me a bit this year, so I sprayed it with Roundup Saturday, and based on my experience, do not expect to have noticable results until about this upcoming Saturday, nor to see stuff starting to really die off for about a week after that. I understand that you are banned from using the stuff made for the job, but even it is not going to show immediate results. Give it a day or two before writing it off.

Thunder Chicken · 07-18-2011, 09:26 PM

I've been beating back an English ivy infestation since I moved into my current house. When I moved in it basically was overwhelming my fence and the once nicely landscaped beds on one entire side of the property. I *used* to think it was a pretty plant, now it is right up there with poison ivy.

If it is in a bed with other plants, physically pull up as much as you can and lay down mulch on top of it. You may have to do some occasional follow-up pulling for the next year or two but this will get it under control. If you can keep pulling off the leaves as they appear the plant will run out of energy and die off completely. Be persistent and patient.

If it is old, thick and woody, cut the ivy as close to the ground as you can and then brush the cut end with glyphosate. This should take care of the roots if you can't physically get a shovel to it (like the ivy under the fence). Turns out that my fence was so old and trashed that the ivy was the only thing holding it up, so we removed everything, dug up the root balls and had a nice new cedar fence installed. The neighbors are very happy.

One trick that I have seen but haven't tried is to just take one of the vines, stuff the end of it in a jar full of glyphosate, put a lid on it and wait. It is basically like force-feeding the plant glyphosate, and it purportedly will take out the entire plant in a targeted fashion. If one plant sends out 20 vines, and you manage to treat one of the vines this way, theoretically the whole plant (and the other 19 vines) will wither and die. Unfortunately ivy spreads with suckers, so you're unlikely to find all of the roots.

Broadcast spraying works too, but you have to do it on a dry, windless day where the temperature is 80F or less. English ivy is waxy, so you really have to apply at the right time to get anything to absorb into the leaves. You'll have to wait for a couple of weeks to see results. It looks like nothing is happening for at least a week, then it suddenly starts withering and dying. Very satisfying to watch.

Keep flailing away at it, it will disappear with time and patience.

Monkey-boy · 07-19-2011, 04:34 AM

I have killed countless stands of ivy. Garlon 2.4D ( crossbow) and a high quality non ionic surfactant. Apply liberally, it will take at least two weeks. You'll get about 60-70% kill. You can spray and rip out new shoots. The cut stump method mentioned above works very well also. Your going to want to brush on straight glyphosate (don't mix with water) immediately after cutting it

Have fun.

shumakerscott · 07-19-2011, 01:34 PM

I hit it again with Simple Green for the soapy and Bleach. Sure seems to stick to the leaves better this time. Some surrounding weeds are showing effects from the first spray. Fingers crossed. dorf dude...

jules4 · 07-19-2011, 02:00 PM

A blow-torch will also work (provided ivy is not growing on/around inflammables or desirable plants), as will a heat gun (but heat gun is not as much fun).

Leah Frances · 07-19-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jules4

A blow-torch will also work (provided ivy is not growing on/around inflammables or desirable plants), as will a heat gun (but heat gun is not as much fun).

No no NO

NEVER burn poison ivy. The oil that causes the rash will volitalize and be carried into the air with the smoke.

If you or anyone else (neighbors) breath it in you can/will get poison ivy in your sinuses, esophagus and bronchii (lungs).

I personally know two folks who spent days in the hospital because of this. One of them was "only burning a tiny bit". The wind caught the smoke and blew it in his face.

Mrguppy · 07-19-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Leah Frances

No no NO

NEVER burn poison ivy. The oil that causes the rash will volitalize and be carried into the air with the smoke.

If you or anyone else (neighbors) breath it in you can/will get poison ivy in your sinuses, esophagus and bronchii (lungs).

I personally know two folks who spent days in the hospital because of this. One of them was "only burning a tiny bit". The wind caught the smoke and blew it in his face.

He was referring to using the torch on the English ivy. On poison ivy you are right but his method will work on the English ivy , although I have a feeling it will still come back.

Leah Frances · 07-19-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrguppy

He was referring to using the torch on the English ivy. On poison ivy you are right but his method will work on the English ivy , although I have a feeling it will still come back.

must stop posting while drinking

here's to vacation!

shumakerscott · 07-19-2011, 03:32 PM

I do have a propane torch that could be useful.

GottaFixIt · 07-19-2011, 04:03 PM

If there's no other plants around that you're trying to save, you could try saturating the plant and ground with boiling water (carefully of course). That usually kills just about everything...

shumakerscott · 07-19-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GottaFixIt

If there's no other plants around that you're trying to save, you could try saturating the plant and ground with boiling water (carefully of course). That usually kills just about everything...

Great tip, Thanks, dorf dude...