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marriomi 11-16-2012 01:51 PM

How to green this grass up (Pittsburgh PA)
 
Looking for guidance on what I can do with my lawn to green it up.
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Backstory
Bought home in March 2012, lawn was green. Was told that the previous owner had a lawncare company treating the lawn, but i don't know why or for how long. Over the summer the area you will see in the pictures basically got 100% sun (also the brown grass has like no weed growth, but the green area does have some assorted grass and weeds. Into fall the brown area is larger and actually goes out of frame and down a small incline to the right. I believe there is an underground stream that runs under this area more or less as well.

About a month back I put a heavy nitrogen fertilizer down on the area to help green it (something like 50/0/0) and dethatched it by hand, hoping it was just thatchy. The area slo got a lot of rain from superstorm sandy, so I'm not sure if it's a water issue or not.

My question being, is there any more product I should put down before winter other than that heavy nitrogen fertilizer? I haven't had the soil tested, but it seems odd that the grass in that area is so much different than the grass to the left. I can provide any more insight if needed.

Also how long would I need to wait for the fertilizer to green the grass up? Is it a matter of waiting until spring to see the results of it?

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user1007 11-16-2012 02:39 PM

It looks like a classic case of fertilizer burn. You put too much high nitrogen fertilizer on an area in full sun. Not much to do now but to wait for some of it to leasch out.

You should have applied at a rate not much more than 1 pound of nitrogen per 1,000 sf unless a soil test indicated otherwise.

Also, turfgrasses enter a state of dormancy of a kind in the Fall and in your climate. Energy is diverted to root growth, etc. One does not usually put a high nitrogen fertilizer on so late in the season.

Anyhow. I would go ahead a get a soil test in the works. You may still have time to add what you need to start balancing Ph before it snows. I would wait to worry too much about nutrients now until the Spring. You can address weeds then too.

Dave632 11-16-2012 02:40 PM

Your grass is probably going to remain dormant until Spring. Around here, early September is about as late as you can make a pre-winter application of fertilizer and expect to see results before next Easter. And even then, it depends on the weather.

marriomi 11-16-2012 02:43 PM

The grass looked like that before I put the fertlizer on it. It still basically looks the same. From what I had read prior to putting down the nitrogen was that it was used to help green grass, was that incorrect?

user1007 11-17-2012 08:34 AM

The three primary plant nutrients are nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium. The NPK ratio, the three numbers on any fertilizer, represent these numbers and show the percentage of each in a sack.

Of all of them, nitrogen is the primary nutrient plants need it is taken up by plants the fastest but also bonds with the soil differently and can leach through it. Plants can only take up nutrients so fast and depending on the soil quality and health. Plants also need other minerals and also a balanced Ph range to grow properly. Only a soil test can tell you where you stand and what you should add to improve and balance your soil.

Over nitrogenation is a big problem. In the turfgrass industry we aimed for 1 pound of nitrogen, per 1,000 sf, per month of the growing season for turf. That may have been too much in some areas.

While you are correct that nitrogen will green up a lawn, you do not want to apply it at a rate higher than suggested. Nitrogen runoff changes the environments of rivers and streams and the lakes and ponds they flow into. Giant algae blooms are just one obvious sign. Over nitrogenation of Midwest farmland is leading directly to the demise of corale and shrimp populations in the Gulf of Mexico and has inspired several international lawsuits.

Anyhow, back to your lawn. I think you probably over applied. If you had 50-0-0 half the sack you bought was nitrogen. If it was a 50 pound sack, you had enough to feed 25,000sf. I am guessing you applied it to less turf than that? Common mistake. But you probably burned or perpetuated a fertilizer burn.

Now then, if the turf was already brown the other things you need to look at are the soil test results. You also need to rule out insect infestation--particulary grubs and any sort of fungus infection. The latter can really take hold if you water late in the day and the turf is left wet overnight. These can be treated with insectisides and fungicides.

As mentioned, you can address your weed problems next year too.

Now then, if your grass went brown as fall approached another possibility is that you have some sort of bermuda or similar turfgrass breed. I cannot really tell what you have from your photo but a real nursery should be able to help you. It is natural for bermuda and other similar species to turn brown in the fall and there is nothing to do about it short of dying it. All the fertilizer in the World will not keep it green. I've never heard of it surviving in your climate though. It could be a crabgrass too I guess (again a better picture showing it in relation to the soil would help) and most are annuals and will die off.


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