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Old 12-17-2016, 03:31 PM   #1
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How effective is horticultural vinegar?


I am in Tucson AZ. I have about half acre of desert dirt, minimally landscaped with everything that grows here always reoccurring after I manually hoe and rake. Will use chemicals if I have to but first want to see about vinegar. Horticultural is 20% vinegar.

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An association I'm part of wanted to find a less objectionable weed killer so I tested vinegar with a dash of salt. I think it was about 25% of household white. It did kill most of the weeds where it contacted them, but did little to the roots, thus a few weeks later it was all back. Not scientific, but we abandoned that option and have gone to grading the gravel road as opposed to Roundup.

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I agree, been there done that.
Works great, knocks them back for about a month or less then you have to do it again.
I use a Product that last almost a year.
http://www.agrisupply.com/gly-star-p...icide/p/50135/
Round Up is a rip off.
First thing I do is look at the label for the active ingredient.
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I have used this stuff with effective results.

http://www.arbico-organics.com/produ...c-weed-control

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It kills by getting into the cells of the plant but does it get into the roots to keep weeds from regrowing? How often do you apply? Looks pricey.
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It wasn't cheap. Can't recall exactly.

I just applied it a few times to some trouble areas and it seemed effective.
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I am in Tucson AZ. I have about half acre of desert dirt, minimally landscaped with everything that grows here always reoccurring after I manually hoe and rake. Will use chemicals if I have to but first want to see about vinegar. Horticultural is 20% vinegar.
Ayuh,.... I've found Clorox bleach to be the best, cheapest, reasonably environmentally friendly weed killer there is,....

It's Cheap at 'bout a buck a gallon or so,....
It kills existin' weeds down to the root,....
It dissipates fairly quickly, 'n don't "run-off",....

My guess is the problem yer havin', 'n one I don't know how to fix is,....
After ya knock down/ pull all the weeds,...
Fresh seeds blow in from elsewhere, 'n the process starts all over again,.....
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I agree, been there done that.
Works great, knocks them back for about a month or less then you have to do it again.
I use a Product that last almost a year.
http://www.agrisupply.com/gly-star-p...icide/p/50135/
Round Up is a rip off.
First thing I do is look at the label for the active ingredient.
Right- RU is a rip off, cuz youre paying for the Brand, like Bayer aspirin is a rip off when you can buy Wal mart aspirin- same thing (get it?).

RU is Glyphosate, usually 20-40% as a concentrate, but dont buy the rU brand- look for glyphosate, as Joe recomended.
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An association I'm part of wanted to find a less objectionable weed killer so I tested vinegar with a dash of salt. I think it was about 25% of household white. It did kill most of the weeds where it contacted them, but did little to the roots, thus a few weeks later it was all back. Not scientific, but we abandoned that option and have gone to grading the gravel road as opposed to Roundup.

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Household vinegar is 5-20%. 25% is very strong and unusual to find, maybe impossible.
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My bad, the 25% I was thinking was from the 4 to 1 I diluted it (looks like mine is 5%), so 1.25% is what I used, but it worked.

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My bad, the 25% I was thinking was from the 4 to 1 I diluted it (looks like mine is 5%), so 1.25% is what I used, but it worked.

Thanks,
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If the original concentration was 5% and you diluted it by adding 1 part vinegar to 4 parts water (total 5 parts), then the final concentration is 1%.

C1V1 = C2V2
C x 100 mL = (5%) (20 mL)
C = 1%

If diluted 1 part vinegar to 3 parts water (total 4 parts):
C x 80 mL = (5%) (20 mL)
C = 1.25%
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Actually I may have spilled some and possible not filled the container all of the way. Do you want me to repeat the process so you can run the calculations again. It killed the plants, at least for awhile.

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If the original concentration was 5% and you diluted it by adding 1 part vinegar to 4 parts water (total 5 parts), then the final concentration is 1%.

C1V1 = C2V2
C x 100 mL = (5%) (20 mL)
C = 1%

If diluted 1 part vinegar to 3 parts water (total 4 parts):
C x 80 mL = (5%) (20 mL)
C = 1.25%
Ahem....is that 1.25% by volume or by weight- you must consider the density of acetic acid. RECALCULATE!!! LOL!!
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Gotta be honest here. I'm an old farm boy - though I'm in the city now.

Glyphosate (RoundUp) has been on the market for over 40 years, and is used by hundreds of millions of people worldwide, every single year. Study after study after study has found NO evidence of it causing cancer, or any other disease.

Add to that the fact that all these "miracle organic solutions" (read, vinegar) do not work, and I do something very simple. I use glyphosate.

If you dilute glyphosate the way it should be diluted, you'll have no problems. And there are NOT a bunch of environmental hazards. Just be sure that if you're part of an HOA it's not banned.
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Plenty of evidence to indicate that while glyphosate does not directly accumulate in humans, it does impair the life cycles of microorganisms and his effect is being further connected to the human health.

Ever wonder why so many people are gluten sensitive now? Do you know what they spray wheat with to dehydrate it prior to harvesting?

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