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Old 03-31-2011, 09:46 PM   #1
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We were looking today at a house in our area it is 5 acres and has a pond. it is Late march early april here in NE PA so everything is still quite wet.
Looks like most of the house in the area have ponds, and looks like a good bit had not exactly standing water but definitly soggy almost boggy like conditions.
The land is quite level so there is not much of a natural slope. we are tying to figure out if French drains combined with some dry wells if that might help?

There does seem to be possibly a small spring feeding in to the area too.

The thing we were not able to figure out was where all the water goes. it did seem to want to flow ever so slightly to the back of the lot.

So really we are just trying to figure out if there is any hope of getting some more dry land.

Because it is an Estate sale no one was able to answer if it was dryer in the summer.

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We were looking today at a house in our area it is 5 acres and has a pond. it is Late march early april here in NE PA so everything is still quite wet.
Looks like most of the house in the area have ponds, and looks like a good bit had not exactly standing water but definitly soggy almost boggy like conditions.
The land is quite level so there is not much of a natural slope. we are tying to figure out if French drains combined with some dry wells if that might help?

There does seem to be possibly a small spring feeding in to the area too.

The thing we were not able to figure out was where all the water goes. it did seem to want to flow ever so slightly to the back of the lot.

So really we are just trying to figure out if there is any hope of getting some more dry land.

Because it is an Estate sale no one was able to answer if it was dryer in the summer.
Is the land on a flood plain?

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no not that we know of.
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Confirmed it is not in a flood plain. this is based off of county Flood plain maps.
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Can you build up the land nearer the house so the slope to the rear is not quite as gentle?

Yes you'll need a lot of loam.
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it already does this. mositrue is not a problem at the house. it is just that alot of the yard is like a marsh or bog. just wanting to know if there is anyway to reclaim some of the yard.

we are planning on going out again and will take pictures
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If there is a natural spring draining to the area, it is unlikely french drains or drywells are going to do much good. They are just going to fill up and be constantly full. If the ground is already boggy and saturated, there is little you can do to get more water into the ground and off the top - short of building dedicated retention (a deeper pond) or draining it off the land more quickly (not typically allowed).
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This is kind of what I was thinking.

I think what I'm hoping to do after a more through investigation is where this stream comes out of the embankment created a u shaped french drain to catch the water and then on long run and run it to the back of the lot where it is naturaly flowing hopefully giving the water an easier path to follow instead of sitting all over the top of the surface.
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Ok we went back today and we understand where the water is coming from and is going.

There is a pond alot of the water is coming from the spill way. some is coming from the up hill slope and coming out of the hill side. the land after the hill side is very flat with only a slight grade. we followed the water back into the wood and found another small Pond 15x20ft. this is the main cause of the back up as on the other side of pond the water spill out into a small chanel that definitly goes down hill.

My solution here is to give the water coming out of the ponds spill way a postive channel to follow instead of over the flat land. and in a couple other areas to help with the water coming off the hill sides a dry well or 2 and a couple french drains.
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You are going to need to do a lot of regrading.

You need for rainfall on the "good" land to be able to drain away and also for the pond not to be able to overflow onto the "good" land.

If you build a system of gentle berms to keep the pond out of the "good" land then rainfall on the "good" land will stay there.

You need to both raise the "good" land and lower the part in the back where you don't mind the water going.

I don't think dry wells will help becaue they will fill up and then you are back where you started.
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AllanJ is on the right track. If you do the math to understand the volume of water to be handled you will quickly see that pipes, french drains and dry wells won't begin to fix the problem. The regrading needed will be expensive and the limiting factor to how much the situation can be improved will be dictated by the house finished floor elevation relative to the property in general.

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