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Old 09-30-2010, 08:02 PM   #16
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I don't want to hijack this thread, but since i know how much you like to argue:

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Love you but that guy in the photo is asking for chemical poisoning. Walking through wet pesticides with tennis shoes is NO-NO!
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I guess he would be, if the stuff in the tank is chemical, but he isn't if it's not. the thread might be about herbicides, but the picture might not be.

Regardless it was intended as a joke, let it go man!! There is no need to get so defensive.

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very good observation. Wasn't considering that when I nabbed the pic. Just trying to explain a boom.

do not walk, drive, run, or play in the mist or wetted ground immediately following pesticide application. Use proper personal protective equipment for the job.
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a funny end (hint) to a thread going off track.
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Not defensive at all over someone who can't read and thinks safety is a joke!
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Depending on what you end up using, it might be a good idea NOT to mow the grass/weeds before you apply the killer. Many of these are absorbed through the leaves, so the longer the grass and weeds are, the better the odds of killing it off. Think about trying the salt and vinegar, it works well, is cheap and readily available, and not likely to turn up on a list of carcinagens in the next 10 years. good luck
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Depending on what you end up using, it might be a good idea NOT to mow the grass/weeds before you apply the killer. Many of these are absorbed through the leaves, so the longer the grass and weeds are, the better the odds of killing it off.
See, now there's an intelligent post that offers a directly helpful suggestion. I agree completely. Not only that, but if one uses a weedeater to knock back high vegetation, that waste material will be on top of what your are trying to treat and act as a quasi-umbrella, preventing a successful application.
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See, now there's an intelligent post that offers a directly helpful suggestion.
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We spray weeds and grass every year at my work, and use different brands of round up. A back pack sprayer if done right can spray a long ways if spot spraying and pending on the tip how much material you are applying. I would suggest doing a once over with round up, it will take a week pending how hot you mix it, I go with my mix 3ounces per gallon, then after its all dead you can put down a pre-emergent, some of those have to be lightly watered in, there is a mix, or granules. The thing with pre-emergent is they create a barrier when the seeds germinate they hit the barrier and die off, if that barrier is broke weeds will grow through.

Since its on a gravel driveway I would recommend, doing a first round with a weed killer, then after those are gone and dead treating with a soil sterilizer. There are different ones, and ways of doing this. Keeping in mind weed killer will kill anything green, don't apply with it windy, soil sterilizer may be likely to run off if it rains, check the labels. You can get 10-15 gallon tank sprayers powered by motors hooked to a battery and can be bolted to anything ridering mowers, or even a wagon. Some do have booms that can be hooked up as well.
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Soil sterilants will kill existing weeds as well as prevent new growth. Generally the sterilants kill weeds much slower than the translocated herbicides (glyphosates, etc.). Instead of treating twice with different herbicides I would consider treating once.

If weeds are tall and well established, remove them prior to sterilant application. With most sterilants you are treating the roots rather than the leaves, but just the opposite with glyphosates and broadleaf herbicides.
Mowing, weed whacking, and removing the denser cuttings and then applying sterilant is a good option. Using Roundup (glyphosate) will kill standing weeds, but they won't disappear, just turn brown.

It's kind of late in the season, at least here in the East, for herbiciding. Weeds need to be actively growing in order for the translocation (leaves) or systemic (roots) actions.
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ok.
just a couple of thoughts.
1. on the tow behind sprayer that does not have the boom, what are you doing? riding along with the mower pointing the wand?
2. what salt is this? table salt? white vinegar? do i just load up on boxes of morton's and jugs of white house, or are there bigger bags?
I don't suppose I could use that big stuff that I put in my water filtration system, could I? probably take a long time to dissolve.
also, would that salt recrystallize later and gum up the works?
I assume the tank, the wand, hoses all have to be thoroughly rinsed out after using, right?

thanks again all for a lively discussion and advice.
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Vinegar and salt in my spraying eqpt makes me nervous. Acidic and corrosive. I would use plastic only, as much as possible. With a powered sprayer, their will be more than just plastic parts. If I used vinegar/salt in my eqpt. I would rinse and clean it more thoroughly than I do for insecticide/herbicides.

Didn't the ancient Romans use salt to sterilize the crop fields of their enemies?
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ok.
just a couple of thoughts.
1. on the tow behind sprayer that does not have the boom, what are you doing? riding along with the mower pointing the wand?
2. what salt is this? table salt? white vinegar? do i just load up on boxes of morton's and jugs of white house, or are there bigger bags?
I don't suppose I could use that big stuff that I put in my water filtration system, could I? probably take a long time to dissolve.
also, would that salt recrystallize later and gum up the works?
I assume the tank, the wand, hoses all have to be thoroughly rinsed out after using, right?

thanks again all for a lively discussion and advice.
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Most tank sprayers can and do come with a boom, if it doesn't then yes you can ride along with the wand in hand and spot spray, that does help and is faster since you don't do all the walking.
I have using salt and the grass won't grow back, haven't tried it personally, my uncle has with no result, may need to mix it strong.
Yes you would need to rinse out the tank boom and wand after use of any spray, it best too. One incase you want to spray say fertilizer with it, round up or glyphosate can be corrosive if it sits in a tank, the rubber will break down. To rinse round up out of a tank, once its empty just put some water in it, doesn't have to be full, then spray it out, not going on good grass since there is residue of round up still in the tank, go along a fence line, or down the road, or something like that, its best to do a triple rinse to make sure its all out. Most any place will have tank sprayers, northen tools, harbor freight might, atwoods, lowes home depot to name a few. Shop around online you will find them.
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Hose end sprayer? I have this one with adjustable metering. http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CC8Q8wIwAA#
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Hey Wang,

Save yourself some time, mix the non-selective and the pre-emergent in the same tank load. Always add a non-ionic surfactant. If you want the grass on the sides...stay away from any soil sterilization products, they are unstable in the soil and will move with very little water, and you want have grass on the sides either.
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I don't see how the pre emergant is going to work since it creates a barrier to keep weeds from growing, and being its a driveway once he drives down it the first time it breaks that barrier. Why get somebody that has a small tank and boom sprayer and spray it real good then keep up with it with a back pack sprayer, it woiuld have to be sprayed about once a month. Or even they have wand sprayers that you can get 3-4 tips on one wand and spray a wider area.

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