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KUIPORNG 08-14-2007 10:04 AM

Driveway sealing ... $100 bucks... worth it?
 
A person knock on the door tried to sell us to do the driveway sealing... $100... he did it for our neighbour... he said to keep the driveway strong and against snow abuse and other abuse..etc...

what do you have to say about this ... thanks...

concretemasonry 08-14-2007 10:15 AM

Driveway sealing ... $100 bucks... worth it?
 
If you think you need it, do it yourself. - Anybody can do it and anybody can knock on a door any spread some black liquid.

Clean the driveway and fill cracks. Find the best sealer you can find and spread it according to directions. You will get a better job for the same or less.

KUIPORNG 08-14-2007 10:35 AM

Thanks .... I am kind of thinking the same... but then the guy mentioned they don't use cheap stuff from HD.... kind of scare me off from trying to DIY I believed...

Do you know how often should one seal the driveway generally... once every two years?.... Thanks

SecretSquirrel 08-14-2007 12:56 PM

There is debate as to whether the sealer really does anything other than cosmetic improvement. I'm not sure if you can draw a conclusion one way or another, but it's an interesting read.

See this thread at DIY Network

KUIPORNG 08-14-2007 02:26 PM

THANKS...after reading... I will choose to pass it this year then... as once a year...after 6 years I probably able to rebuild the whole new drive way for $600 bucks... and if DIYer don't get the professional coating stuff from local store that they have ... why bother

billinak 08-14-2007 03:59 PM

Sounds like one of those 'traveler' scams to me. They put on the cheapest stuff they can get which washes off after the first rain, but by then they've left town. I just did mine using an 8-year sealant from HD. It's about $25 for about 400 square feet of coverage. Cosmetic or not, it sure does look great, and easily worth the $50 of product plus my Saturday afternoon.

AtlanticWBConst. 08-14-2007 06:16 PM

I agree with Billinak. There are scams like this that go on all over the country. Rule of thumb is:

If you didn't go looking for them, don't hire them. Anyone who knocks on your door trying to sell any kind of service (paving, concrete, seal-coating) because "they were doing another job in the neighborhood"....be weary. Scammers have been doing this for a long time. Once the job is done, they get paid, and leave. A few days later and the work they did peels off....You can't find them, because they have left town. They travel from state to state. There have been 20/20 episodes and more on it....

AtlanticWBConst. 08-14-2007 06:22 PM

Here's some information off the internet:


Link: http://www.summitpolice.com/news.htm

Driveway Sealing Scam

Another scam which has been successfully used in the past, the driveway repair or seal coating service. A man will come to your door usually stating that he has just finished a neighbors driveway and has some of the sealing product left over, he will do your driveway for half the price just to get rid of the excess sealant. In most cases is not sealant but waste motor oil, which will look good for a while but will not dry and will deteriorate the driveway.

Consider the following
1. Are there several men walking about the neighborhood, if so how much sealant could he have left over?
2. Are you a senior citizen? Seniors are very trusting and might fall for a scam quicker than others. Seniors are sometimes reluctant to report the fact that they have been scammed, they are embarrassed at being tricked.
3. Is the suspect driving a vehicle with out of state license plates, most do.
4. Close your door. DO NOT let any stranger into your house. Call the police immediately and report what is happening.



Other links:

http://www.ct.gov/ag/cwp/view.asp?A=2099&Q=294776

http://www.bgdailynews.com/articles/...news/news3.txt



diyer4162 08-17-2007 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SecretSquirrel (Post 57653)
There is debate as to whether the sealer really does anything other than cosmetic improvement. I'm not sure if you can draw a conclusion one way or another, but it's an interesting read.

See this thread at DIY Network


Wow, didn't think everyone here was soo skeptical, yes there are "bad business" sealers out there, but there are also very reputable companies. I owned my own driveway sealing business and put myself through college by doing this. There IS a difference, and yes it does save a lot of where and tear on your driveway. Years of not sealing it does take it's toll.

Just on an end note, I never went door to door, so yes this type of business is probably questionable hoping you buy on an impulse.

SecretSquirrel 08-17-2007 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by diyer4162 (Post 58216)
Wow, didn't think everyone here was soo skeptical

Are you talking about the sealer or about flim flam artists?

KUIPORNG 08-17-2007 01:59 PM

OK diyer4162, can you tell me then, are those HD selling sealer stuff are good enough to use... or business like yours have their secret ingradient.... and how often should those be apply generally?

diyer4162 08-17-2007 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SecretSquirrel (Post 58219)
Are you talking about the sealer or about flim flam artists?

Both i guess, every trade has their scams...just seemed as though everyone thought sealing your driveway was a scam, thats all...

diyer4162 08-17-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KUI****G (Post 58220)
OK diyer4162, can you tell me then, are those HD selling sealer stuff are good enough to use... or business like yours have their secret ingradient.... and how often should those be apply generally?


The HD sealers are actually better now (I sealed 5 years ago) then they have ever been...they are actually a little thicker/tackier than the stuff I would use, and by being thicker doesn't necessarily mean a better coating, as this peels up a lot easier, when in significant heat than thinnner applications.

You should apply every two years. If you had two brand new driveways and one sealed and the other didn't, you would definitely notice...and with driveways, a better appearance mean less cracks, less fading which equals a longer lasting driveway.

I live in WI, so the winters here are brutal for a driveway, the ice, salt, etc...

SecretSquirrel 08-17-2007 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diyer4162 (Post 58223)
Both i guess, every trade has their scams...just seemed as though everyone thought sealing your driveway was a scam, thats all...

I don't know about everybody else but I'm not reading this thread in that context. I think the point being made is to be wary of door to door scam artists. You even said so yourself in your closing statement; "so yes this type of business is probably questionable hoping you buy on an impulse.". I didn't see that as a slam on the sealer industry or its reputable contractors.

As far as using the sealer, all I'm saying is that there is debate towards the actual benefits derived from usage of the product. It's kind of like waxing your car... it sure looks good when you do it, but if you don't, does it really add to the detriment of the vehicle? It's up to the individual to determine whether the product is suitable for their particular circumstance and needs.

If you have some information that supports the benefits of using the product then I think this would be an excellent opportunity to present that and help de-mystify the issue.

diyer4162 08-17-2007 03:08 PM

i am at work, so i don't really ahve time to "pull" info right now, but think of it like this...atleast in WI...the pros of waxing your car = less dirt/salt sticking to your car which in turns saves your car from rusting prematurely...so parralleling that to driveways, sealing it prevents from water and ice damage breaking/cracking your driveway, salt has the same negative affects. Sorry if this doesn't give you the answer you need, don't have much time.


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