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Old 05-19-2013, 06:33 AM   #16
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I bought a $10 weeder yesterday and pulled out 2 small bags of dandelions. I hope that will help with amount of visible dandelions on my lawn. I understand new ones may appear, but I think I am very proud of the results.

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Old 05-19-2013, 06:47 AM   #17
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Using a company to do something you can do yourself is throwing money out the window. I do my own weed maintenance, and this year is bad, when it comes to weeds getting out of control.

Last year everything went dormant because of the drought, and this year due to all of the rain we have had, I am getting ready to do another Weed & Feed treatment, which will be the third one in three months.

I actually found a natural product that our local Ace Hardware sells, that works better than the Scott's or their brand name.

It is more of experimenting and finding the right product to do the job, that also means that you quite paying for something you can do yourself.
Here's is what my Ace sells. Let me know what you think. I would need the 5,000 sq ft bag.

http://m.acehardware.com/search/inde...7CACE+HARDWARE
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:30 AM   #18
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Application rate for a 50 pound sack seems dead on.

I cannot comment on price as it has been a long time and I seldom bought retail products anyhow. You get some off with an ACE card right?

I do think, as suggested, you need to track down freestanding herbicide to for at least spot zapping after this general application. A hose end or sprayer product perhaps?
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Old 05-19-2013, 04:14 PM   #19
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How much do you pay

I go with the whole season long program at around 500. In the fall they aerate the lawn before fertilizing. Its basically the best package. However you can just get one treatment for i think 35 depending on lawn size. The dandelions will be wilting in 24 hours after treatment.
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Go down to your local Grain and Agonomy center and get yourself some pasture strength 2-4-D that our farmers use for corn fields. I work for a grain and agronomy company and they just give me a 20 oz bottle when I need it. Most labels say 3 oz to a gallon but 4 oz is ok to for spot treatments. Wont kill the grass and works great. Trust farmers, they know whats best.
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Go down to your local Grain and Agonomy center and get yourself some pasture strength 2-4-D that our farmers use for corn fields. I work for a grain and agronomy company and they just give me a 20 oz bottle when I need it. Most labels say 3 oz to a gallon but 4 oz is ok to for spot treatments. Wont kill the grass and works great. Trust farmers, they know whats best.
2-4-D is one of the best broadleaf weed killers out there and is the primary ingredient in most weed killers mentioned on this site.

I must strongly disagree with the suggestion to use 4 oz if the bottle says 3 oz. It may indeed be fine but it is that extra ounce or two of use beyond labeling by too many people that causes excess in run-off and ultimately gets stuff banned for consumer purchase. The EPA was looking at 2-4-D for this very reason. Of course when only one person uses extra on their little piece of the planet we assume it is no big deal. But you get 10 or 20 neighbors all thinking it is alright and you are no longer talking an extra ounce anymore---especially if you are downstream from them.

And I agree farmers are a great resource as far as seeing what works but they haven't exactly demonstrated extreme understanding or responsibility as far as over application of nitrogen and the damage it is doing to US streams, rivers and even the overall health and aquaculture of the Gulf of Mexico. I am not just a shouting tree hugger here. Over application of fertilizer and other ag chemicals just in the Midwest is traceable to the degradation of things like shrimp beds and the death of corral that harbors fish even we eat. Other countries that depend on these aquaculture crops depend on them for their livlihood and food. Some of them are very angry with US farmers at the moment. And we cannot even eat much of what US farmers in the Midwest grow anymore without post harvest processing it.

Follow the labels. I certainly will not argue with buying food and lawn seed from your local or regional grain, seed and ag dealer. Just to start, you will save a bunch of money.
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2-4-D is one of the best broadleaf weed killers out there and is the primary ingredient in most weed killers mentioned on this site.

I must strongly disagree with the suggestion to use 4 oz if the bottle says 3 oz. It may indeed be fine but it is that extra ounce or two of use beyond labeling by too many people that causes excess in run-off and ultimately gets stuff banned for consumer purchase. The EPA was looking at 2-4-D for this very reason. Of course when only one person uses extra on their little piece of the planet we assume it is no big deal. But you get 10 or 20 neighbors all thinking it is alright and you are no longer talking an extra ounce anymore---especially if you are downstream from them.

And I agree farmers are a great resource as far as seeing what works but they haven't exactly demonstrated extreme understanding or responsibility as far as over application of nitrogen and the damage it is doing to US streams, rivers and even the overall health and aquaculture of the Gulf of Mexico. I am not just a shouting tree hugger here. Over application of fertilizer and other ag chemicals just in the Midwest is traceable to the degradation of things like shrimp beds and the death of corral that harbors fish even we eat. Other countries that depend on these aquaculture crops depend on them for their livlihood and food. Some of them are very angry with US farmers at the moment. And we cannot even eat much of what US farmers in the Midwest grow anymore without post harvest processing it.

Follow the labels. I certainly will not argue with buying food and lawn seed from your local or regional grain, seed and ag dealer. Just to start, you will save a bunch of money.
Sorry, you must of misread my post or I mis-explained. 3 oz for overspaying and 4 oz for spot treatments is recommended by label. you can go to stores like ACE, Runnings, etc and buy it, but most agronomists will just give you a few treatments worth since they sell it by the gallons.

And you are spot on about the EPA looking into to 2-4-D. Its is a known cancer causer, so always where PPE. After I use it, I get undressed in the garage before I even step foot in my house around the family.
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:30 PM   #23
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We can't even buy round up at Wal mart..they are just not allowed to carry it. and the stores that do, have it locked up and one must undergo an interogation where you must justify its use.

Forget farmers grade..you need a license just to say its name

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