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Old 12-30-2011, 10:01 AM   #1
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hello,
This weekend's project is to prepare the steps with gravel base and river sand in order to put pavers next week end.
I have a small hill leading from garage to basement and last week i carved 7 steps with standard riser height and double tread runs. The soil is red mud type, pretty compacted but when wet has the consistency of clay.

I'm looking for suggestions to hold the pavers on the sides of the step and for the risers. Last week i made forms and poured concrete but it was a disaster (2 inch thickness not thick enough?). Someone at work suggested 4x4 or 6x6 treated wood which i've seen projects done before but the wood will only last maybe 5 years?
What would you do?

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Not sure where you came up with the 5 year figure. Below grade 4 X 4's 4 X 6's or 6 X 6's should last at least 20 years if not more.
Read the lable on the ends of the wood if it says below ground rated the treating is deeper in the wood not just a suface treatment.

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Not sure where you came up with the 5 year figure. Below grade 4 X 4's 4 X 6's or 6 X 6's should last at least 20 years if not more.
Read the lable on the ends of the wood if it says below ground rated the treating is deeper in the wood not just a suface treatment.
I didnt came up with it... The PT fence posts in my yard remind me of it every morning...
After reading your post (thank you btw) I looked closely at lowes and hd website for specs on their products. None of them states for below grade... I guess that's my problem... Where can i get below grade or marine applucation PT wood?

Also what about using the solid cement blocks for retaining? Would that work?
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Quick updare: I m using 16x8x2 cement blocks as retaining and step headers. Seems it's going to work. Need to use some kind of binder for the gaps on the headers... Will post later on
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try using polymeric sand for a binder and keep in mind outside steps should be about 6 1/2" height, not 8"
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Hi Sir, did you plan the step light?
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Hi there

How's your project going?

I don't know if its too late or not but, here is a How to Guide on Installing pavers, it may help: http://www.paversearch.com/installing-pavers-menu.htm
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How's your project going?

I don't know if its too late or not but, here is a How to Guide on Installing pavers, it may help: http://www.paversearch.com/installing-pavers-menu.htm
Great link. Project is done but the slope I purposely built in is not having the desired visual effect. I may remove pavers to slope it differently

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