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Old 11-23-2008, 09:33 AM   #1
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hello

got a project in mind

I want to add an extenstion cemet to my standard concrete slab that came with the new house.

It would prolly be ways cheaper to DIY

I need to add 8 more feet in width by what 11 feet or so

I have exact numbers somewhere

joint expansioners in between the new cemet [like say in the middle at 4 feet and between new and old cemet] is what I hear to prevent crack.

I have a home depot book

Getting info here to match will be great to build confidence to start

I prefer premix [just add water I hear]

What tools I MUST have

Also, how can I be certain of the grass that is to be removed is ideally flat to lay the cemet on..

any help is great

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Old 11-23-2008, 02:36 PM   #2
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Old 11-23-2008, 03:53 PM   #3
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Need to figure if you want it 4", 5" or 6", and what the cubic yards are. As for premix, better to go with a truck, due to you are talking around 1.08642cu yds for 4" slab, 1.35802 for 5", 1.62963 for 6".
http://www.concrete.com/calculatorsmaterials.htm#volume To do it old school http://www.ehow.com/how_2266389_calc...paign=yssp_art
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:01 PM   #4
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have no idea about cubic yards none

I tape measured it an extra 8 feet I need to cover where the grass is. The existing slab was there with the new house.. that slab is fine but have a back door with a 2 by 2 feet of cemet in step with the backdoor that is 8 feet away from slab.

so instead of 20 feet wide cemet I want an extra 8 feet to cover the entire width of screen door patio and back door patio with no grass between it and replaced with cemet

this way I have the platform to put up a screen enclosure to my wants and needs.

Cubic yards I'm thinking you saying that for cemet volume, right??
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See prev. links. Concrete is measured in Cubic Yards, so that they know how much to order on the truck when it is delivered. You take the Width x the Length x the thickness all in inches. So, you would have to convert everything from feet times 12 for the dimensions all in inches. As for the depth, you divide by 12 for the decimal conversion. If you did not do well in basic math, the two links I prev. posted help.
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Old 11-23-2008, 08:38 PM   #6
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yea ok I understand


basically you think 8 feet width by 11 feet plus say 3 inches thick needs a truck???!!!!


holy smokes!!! It not a lap pool I'm putting back there - no offense....
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you need a hose, wheelbarrow, trowel, hoe and shovel + about 40, 50 bags of premix and an attitude adjustment.

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40 50 bags!?

I'm just being funny dangermouse - don't take me wrong, I'm a nice guy.

I have a sense of humor that's all

but facts are this is real stuff we're talking here and I hear all of you guys


I knida thought that premixed bags and the odds and ends could [wasn't so sure] be enuff

just wasn't sure a mixing truck was needed.... those things I see for filling out pools

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If it's only a yard and you have access to a truck you can get the cement at a "u-cart" place.
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A pick up [personal truck] then is what people are meaning here??

The truck to cart around the cemet machine??

I'm a freshman to these things - seen'em [the cemet machine]but not use'em

Sounds like I'm gonna have to be a self made man here with whatever help[info] I can get here, books, you tube and store workers.
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yes, that area will take approx. that many bags.

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Yes. A pickup truck. Something like this:
http://tomballrental.com/serv01.htm
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now we're really getting somehwere with the cart system

1 yard=40 BAGS [that is what the website say]

So I need apx 8 feet so that's close to 3 yards

40 times 3 is 120 bags!

cart system seems less labor less cost

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Plus I would have to factor in the 11 feet in the other I____I side

I'm starting to think this may be beyond my skills as a one man show as I would also need joint expansions to prevent crack
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Not sure how you get 3 yards out of 8 feet or where the 120 bags come from.

8 feet x 11 feet x .25 feet (3 inches) = 22 cubic feet. There are 27 cubic feet in one cubic yard, so 22 divide by 27 = .81 cubic yards. A 60 pouind bag of ready mix will give you approximately half a cubic foot, so you will need about 44 bags.

That's a lot of cement to mix by hand in one day. And a very expensive way to do it with that kind of quantity. If you don't have a pickup truck, you could probably rent one and a portable mixer and buy your sand, cement and aggregate seperately to mix your own concrete and still save money over buying premix.
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now we're really getting somehwere with the cart system

1 yard=40 BAGS [that is what the website say]

So I need apx 8 feet so that's close to 3 yards

40 times 3 is 120 bags!

cart system seems less labor less cost

I I
Plus I would have to factor in the 11 feet in the other I____I side

I'm starting to think this may be beyond my skills as a one man show as I would also need joint expansions to prevent crack
It is a little ambitious for your first concrete project. You will most definately need help with the screeding and finishing. Start with a small sidewalk and practice the skills. Concrete is too expensive not to get it right the first time.

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