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Old 05-02-2008, 12:13 AM   #16
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Well, I recently got promoted at work so not much time to do it myself - However the caveat to that is now i have more money to hire someone haha. Anyway, I've found someone who is going to do the labor for me - $1200 sound about right ?

I purchase all the materials;

Cinder block (100 pieces of 8x8x8 @ 1.15/ea) + Mortar Mix- $190
Veneer Stone - $4.49 sq. ft - $190 (someone make sure I calculated 39 sq ft of stone correctly)
Stone Mortar - $20

$1600 total sound right ? cheap ? expensive ? Here is the work that is to be done. 5' radius x 18" height

Fire pit w/ outter stone and flagstone top (i havent decided on the cap)

half-bench - 11'x18"x18"
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Old 05-04-2008, 07:06 PM   #17
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Wow, that looks very nice already. This is something I would love to do and doesn't seem very expensive!

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Old 05-05-2008, 08:49 AM   #18
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looks great BUT where're the contraction/control joints ??? only see 3 groov'd jnts which were probably done when finished,,, imo, there should be more.

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Old 05-05-2008, 11:15 AM   #19
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If you are referring to the "Cuts" the horizontal cuts were made after the concrete dried... I had asked the same thing
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It's coming along! Very nice. You should post your in-progress pictures and completion pics on http://www.YardShare.com. There are quite a few folks looking for great project pictures like these there.

Good job!

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It looks good, but they should not have cut the control joint across the pit like that. Regardless, the chances of it moving are pretty slim, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:20 PM   #22
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then again, scar, did j'ever see 2 carpenters agree on anything ??? i'd have preferr'd seeing a better jnt pattern but those guys got pd & they're gone,,, i don't think it'll move but i am concern'd about random cracking,,, however, we can't see it from our house, right ?
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Update, masonry guys laid the block foundation - I paid him half $600 (for whats pictured) and hes suppose to return next week to lay the stone...

Just curious hoe difficult is it to lay the stone and what is needed to cut it to fit...
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Difficult for ME, or difficult for YOU? It is simple for me, and may be for you. How are you at jigsaw puzzles, because you don't really want to cut any if possible (although it is easy to cut).
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I'm pretty good at jigsaw puzzles - I was most likely (if I took it upon myself to do) going to lay the pieces prior and play with them before slapping them on. Again, if I were to do this myself - I go from left to right, top to bottom, any other pointers ? tips ? etc... Here is the manuf website with video on how to lay the stone - http://www.eldoradostone.com/flashsi...FQcziQodBDxCxQ

One question is what are the procedures for laying stone on concrete like mine. The video displays using on wood/mesh... do I use the same procedures i.e covering concrete with mortar and using comb, allow to dry, then place stone...

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No, you can stick them on directly with either mortar or thinset. I prefer thinset for high activity areas like that one.
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Cool, thanks.

Now what about the gaps (grout area) would I fill that with thinset as well ? The video said ideally 1/2" to 1" grout but never said anything about filling it. I'm only worried once I set the stone and malet it in place some spots you will be able to see the cinder block form....
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we use a mason's bag ( much like cake decorator's )
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To grout the joints do NOT use thinset, just regular old bagged mortar and the grout bag. Edit, also remember than on the curved surface, you should basically butt the stones and that will give you the 3/8 to 3/4" joint that you want.
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thanks, scar,,, sometimes i forget the obvious.

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