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proofer 08-16-2008 02:54 PM

Black walnut tree in our backyard
 
We've been considering getting our black walnut tree in the backyard cut down. But we know the cost would be great as it's a huge tree (about 40 feet high). Someone recently mentioned that walnut trees are prized not only for the walnuts but the wood itself. I wonder if people ever consider bartering---they cut the tree down for free, if they get to keep the wood and walnuts. Ever heard of people doing that before?

Kap 08-16-2008 09:06 PM

They do that here with palms. Nurseries will remove mature palms for free so they can sell them.

Call some of your bigger local landscapers/nurseries.

Kap 08-16-2008 09:07 PM

You may want to ask here too:

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/

KHouse75 08-16-2008 10:50 PM

Black Walnut trees are worth a lot of money from what I hear. There are people who will sneak onto your property when you aren't home and will cut your tree down because it's worth so much.

You should be able to get much more out of it that it would cost you to pay someone to cut it down.

proofer 08-17-2008 06:45 PM

Thanks for the advice. I will definitely look into seeing who might want this wood. In taking another look at the tree, I'm guessing it's 50 feet tall, so it might be worth quite a bit.

Shamus 08-18-2008 04:51 PM

You don't mention the diameter. That has everything to do with value.

There was a saying 25 years ago. Plant 40 walnut trees the day of your childs birth. Sell the trees and pay for their college 18 yrs later.

Depending on your location, the Northeast or the Midwest will bring the highest prices. You can match the highest value hardwoods selling in those areas and it's most likely double that, upwards to $100/ton or $800/MBF on the stump.

Value in the south and west are lower due to demand. Just not much walnut wood used there due to availability.

Charles 08-18-2008 05:00 PM

I used to live at a place that had a black walnut tree and during the spring it would spot your car in a thick sap that actually ended up messing my neighbors paint job up a little bit. I can sympathize with wanting to get it cut down, but I used to love having a very steady supply of walnuts.

proofer 08-18-2008 09:14 PM

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I never noticed any sap on our cars before; but then again, I didn't look very closely, plus, our cars are black. My car is new, so thanks for that head's up.

Our tree splits off from the main trunk about 5 feet up. At the very base, it's about 24 inches wide. Then the secondary branches are about 16 inches wide each. The tree is about 50 feet high. We're in Ohio (the Midwest), so I might have some luck in finding a buyer/tree service to barter with. Here's a picture below:

buletbob 08-18-2008 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamus (Post 149723)
You don't mention the diameter. That has everything to do with value.

There was a saying 25 years ago. Plant 40 walnut trees the day of your childs birth. Sell the trees and pay for their college 18 yrs later.

Depending on your location, the Northeast or the Midwest will bring the highest prices. You can match the highest value hardwoods selling in those areas and it's most likely double that, upwards to $100/ton or $800/MBF on the stump.

Value in the south and west are lower due to demand. Just not much walnut wood used there due to availability.

that is so true. that saying live's on here to. they are worth a lot. call a locale hard wood dealer, you should be able to have the tree removed and then still get paid at the same time , don't work on a bard er, you will be loosing on this deal. BOB

proofer 09-03-2008 09:12 AM

Well, I called all the sawmills in the area and I got the same general response. They were interested in taking this tree down ONLY if it was standing in a field somewhere (because it would be them to take the tree down). But since this tree is in our backyard very close to the house and I would insist on a certified tree service that is bonded and insured to do the job just in case it did any property damage, they weren't interested at all.

I just can't justify the expense of removing this 50-foot tree if it's not causing major problems. It's just the minor inconvenience of millions (slight exaggeration) of nuts in the backyard and on the patio and driveway.

Oh well, it was worth a shot. Now I know.

jackpine 09-03-2008 09:44 AM

You could cut it down yourself. All you need to do is winch it down, away from the house. Attach a winch to another big tree in the direction you want the tree to fall. Make your notch cut in the same direction. Then make your back cut slowly as to not cut it all the way through. At this point the tree is just standing by the small hinge left uncut. Now, get on the winch and crank it down until it falls. I have cut dozens of yard trees down using this method. Some of which were 80 foot tall birch trees, 10 feet from my house and leaning towards the house.

proofer 09-03-2008 10:09 AM

Would I ever consider doing this myself? Absolutely not. No matter which direction this 50-foot tree would fall, it'd be landing on something major (either in our yard or one of our 3 neighbors' yards). And with my being such a novice in this area, it'd probably end up landing in the worst possible place. It's staying.

jackpine 09-03-2008 10:18 AM

Well, this is a do it yourself site and I just was telling you how to do it yourself. If I was closer, I would come and help, it is not really that much of a job. As far as selling the timber, you probably have 30 bucks worth of tree there so trading the job out would not be real fair. If you want it down and will not DIY, then call an arborist. They will either do it like I explained or climb it and cut down small sections at a time, or have a truck with a boom on to accomplish it. 1000 dollars is probably ball park for that job. And that may not include clean up. My advice, live with the nuts.

KHouse75 09-03-2008 12:22 PM

sounds like you should invest in a lawn vaccuum to suck all the nuts up.or pay the neighborhood kids a penny per nut for them to pick them up.

buletbob 09-03-2008 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jackpine (Post 154552)
Well, this is a do it yourself site and I just was telling you how to do it yourself. If I was closer, I would come and help, it is not really that much of a job. As far as selling the timber, you probably have 30 bucks worth of tree there so trading the job out would not be real fair. If you want it down and will not DIY, then call an arborist. They will either do it like I explained or climb it and cut down small sections at a time, or have a truck with a boom on to accomplish it. 1000 dollars is probably ball park for that job. And that may not include clean up. My advice, live with the nuts.

A fifty foot black walnut will most likely pay out over $4000.00 in tember


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