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KUIPORNG 09-02-2008 01:06 PM

best material to put on top of bare soil to avoid weed growth?
Hi everyone,

we are doing our side now... the path between our home and our neighbours home.... wonder what is the best materials to use to put on top of the soil... to avoid weed growth... I saw many people put in crashed stones... but I am think those stones will create large void holes for water and dirts.... so wouldn't it be make more sense to put in some smaller crushed limestones or rocks.... what is the general way of doing it...

also we need to dig out the grasses from the front yard... thinking about renting the gasoline SOD cutter from HD... my concern is will it be able to be carried up and down from the Mini-Van with reasonable effort... or you need a pickup truck for that... I know I can go to HD to ask... but if I can get the answer from here sooner... why not...

and once thhe grasses removed, what is the options I can used besides putting in new grasses.... I saw some tiny red wood stuff people used in some area... but then will think it will be quite odd to see a large area like 150 to 200 sq. ft for this ... the bottom line is we don't want to cut grasses.... I know we can do gardening... but then we cannot gardening the whole area....

thanks for answer any of above questions.... I know I can search the net for some of the answer... but you know searching is hard work also....


concretemasonry 09-02-2008 02:04 PM

Get rid of the sod. - a sod cutter works if you have access or you can do it by hand.

Add sand to get a proper grade away from the foundation.

Top with 20 mil poly (10 will work with rounded river rock).

Cover with the rock of your choice.

Spray with weed killer periodically (seeds are air borne) ot Roundup once a year if you get grasses.


Kap 09-02-2008 02:51 PM

I like river rock myself. Put down 5-6 inch first to cover 65-70% of area, then cover with 3-4 inch so you see no more of the weed cloth, but don't completely cover the big rocks. Then add 1-2 inch rock.

Kap 09-02-2008 02:52 PM

My most recent project:

Kap 09-02-2008 02:54 PM

Kap 09-02-2008 02:56 PM

That was all Mondo grass before changing to rock.

You might like mondo if it will do well in your area. It prefers shade and moisture, as it is lily family. Almost no trimming needed. VERY slow to grow and fill in though, and can be pricey to plant it solid.

Kap 09-02-2008 03:02 PM

Click on "my Photos" under my name and album "Rock Garden 001" to see more in progress pictures of the job.

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KUIPORNG 09-02-2008 03:03 PM

nice landscaping. I think this is quite good for the back yard... I doubt it will be suitable for the front yard... may be it does... but just doubt.... I saw people put in those red wood pieces in the front yard... for the side path... I think it is a bit pricy to use river rock... the hack... I am so generous of using Portage slab already... don't want to pay more $$ for anything more.... I myself don't really like the poly/fabric approach of forbidding weeds... I think it is a two side swords, it brings benefits but also causes troubles... I saw failurers story at my friends' back yard... in the long run... it will deteriate..etc... but I may be wrong.... for now.... I intend to pour in more HPB bags on the soil to make it a few inches thickness and see if it solves the problem... thanks for answering anyway...

Kap 09-02-2008 03:18 PM

What ever you do, you should treat the ground first with a pre-emergent hebicide. That will greatly reduce weeds from growing. But as Dick said, you will always have weeds. They'll just blow in. But that will be easy to deal with. Especially on such a small area. Very easy to pull or spray roundup or just put salt on them. Also look into 20-30% acetic acid content vinegar for weed killing if you are opposed to chemicals.

concretemasonry 09-02-2008 03:47 PM

Nice looking jobs. -

River rock is ideal and that is what I would use because it is user-friendly amd locally readily available and reasonably priced, although the crushed comes in different colors.

If you only have crushed, angular or volcanic rock, then use the 20 mil poly.

I suggested the solid poly instead of the weed block because of the need to direct water away from the house in most areas.

KUIPORNG 09-03-2008 09:51 AM

What if I use the red pine munch to put on top of two sides of the Portage stepping stones.... to cover up the ugly little rocks.... I think this should work, shouldn't it?

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