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Old 04-13-2011, 10:17 PM   #1
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I was digging my french drain and ran into what looks to me like a poured concrete footer. Our house(not shown next to ac in photo) footer, however, is 8 feet below. Since there is a filled pipe on top, I'm wondering if this was a base to an old well pump. Our house was built in late 1930's. The form ends on the right but have no idea how far it extends down or to the left.

Get this too. We had full interior french drain installed with two sumps two years ago. Not a drop of water since then. But the wall and spot near this "well" is the only moist wall in whole basement. Hmmm.

I wonder if the "well" was decommisioned properly or will/should I dig around it and drain tile it. I need the inside of basement block dry so I can finish the basement.

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That could be any thing--an old clothes line---or the inlet to a cistern.

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My guess is a cistern although the 30s seems a bit late for such things. You should deal with it if it is leaking out.
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:08 PM   #4
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Thank you for the replies. Here's today's "find":

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Stuck a garden hose in the pipe and got out dirt and it bottomed at 2 1/2 feet. Feels really solid at bottom of pipe. It's about a 3 inch steel pipe, strange for a clothes line. Seems too big for a well too.

So cisterns weren't common after the 30's? A cistern is for water, right? Aren't you supposed to be able to climb into a cistern? For cleaning or something. We had a house once with downspouts dropping to a cistern; it had an "access panel" on top of 5 foot circular concrete.

I hope it was filled with something appropriate. Wonder if it could be some sort of outlet for an "artesian well".
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:21 PM   #5
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when were the lots split? Maybe a fence post or gate post.
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Start talking to your neighbors. I've learned tons from the old timers in my neighborhood about my old property.
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A cistern is for water, right? Aren't you supposed to be able to climb into a cistern? For cleaning or something. We had a house once with downspouts dropping to a cistern; it had an "access panel" on top of 5 foot circular concrete.

I hope it was filled with something appropriate. Wonder if it could be some sort of outlet for an "artesian well".
I restored an antique railway worker house in East Urbana Illinois. Gorgeous cutey of a house with magnificent oak and cherry floors. Next door were my gorgeous geezer neighbors who had on their property this huge cistern you could walk around in. It must have served acres of farmland or something but was capped off and dry. It served as a bomb shelter for a time and then as an underground dollhouse for their girls. It was really cool, in many ways, with girly wallpaper and all sorts of stuff.

Anyhow, remembering your post, if you want to crawl into it and figure out what it is or what it was? Fine. I would stick a scope down first before I crawled into one I didn't know though.

From what you said it is the only source of leaks into your basement so if it were me, and if there is no pirate treasure left inside, I would cap whatever is feeding in and out of it and close the sucker shut. It is probably deeper than you foundation and even that continuous slow leak will come to haunt you some day.
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Here's a new closeup. Used a garden hose to flush dirt out of pipe. The pipe is 2 1/2 feet deep with solid "obstruction" at the bottom. Still scratching my head.

Will ask some oldtimers in the neighborhood what it is. Or what was common back in the day.

Pipe is iron about 3 inches. Seems odd for a fence post. Seems too big for a well outlet too. I'm guessing it was an inlet for rain water from the roof?

Have yet to find out how deep it goes, but the sides are as you see it unless something gets larger down farther.

As you can see it is putting a big stop on the french drain and possibly revealing a bigger problem than run off water. Any ideas?
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I'm still putting my money on a clothes line.
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I'm with Mike. Keep digging and tip it over..... I'm also betting it was a clothesline.

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3" diameter pipe set in concrete? My bet is a old fashion type 6 foot diameter satellite dish foundation.





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3" diameter pipe set in concrete? My bet is a old fashion type 6 foot diameter satellite dish foundation.





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Nice. Those newer, smaller dishes are way less offensive than the old ones.
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Way more concrete then I ever used for a clothesline..
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Old 04-19-2011, 06:48 AM   #15
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I dug one out of my folks back yard once that was every bit as large---


Clothes poles were taken very seriously back in the old days!!!!

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