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Squeakyhinge 04-13-2011 10:17 PM

Archaelogical find
 
:no:
http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/...CIMG0060-1.jpg

I was digging my french drain and ran into what looks to me like a poured concrete footer. Our house(not shown next to ac in photo) footer, however, is 8 feet below. Since there is a filled pipe on top, I'm wondering if this was a base to an old well pump. Our house was built in late 1930's. The form ends on the right but have no idea how far it extends down or to the left.

Get this too. We had full interior french drain installed with two sumps two years ago. Not a drop of water since then. But the wall and spot near this "well" is the only moist wall in whole basement. Hmmm.

I wonder if the "well" was decommisioned properly or will/should I dig around it and drain tile it. I need the inside of basement block dry so I can finish the basement.

oh'mike 04-14-2011 05:18 AM

That could be any thing--an old clothes line---or the inlet to a cistern.

Dig ---investigate and get back to us.--Mike---

user1007 04-14-2011 07:13 AM

My guess is a cistern although the 30s seems a bit late for such things. You should deal with it if it is leaking out.

Squeakyhinge 04-14-2011 08:08 PM

Thank you for the replies. Here's today's "find":

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/...e/CIMG0063.jpg
http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/...e/CIMG0062.jpg
http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/...e/CIMG0061.jpg

Stuck a garden hose in the pipe and got out dirt and it bottomed at 2 1/2 feet. Feels really solid at bottom of pipe. It's about a 3 inch steel pipe, strange for a clothes line. Seems too big for a well too.

So cisterns weren't common after the 30's? A cistern is for water, right? Aren't you supposed to be able to climb into a cistern? For cleaning or something. We had a house once with downspouts dropping to a cistern; it had an "access panel" on top of 5 foot circular concrete.

I hope it was filled with something appropriate. Wonder if it could be some sort of outlet for an "artesian well".

nap 04-14-2011 08:21 PM

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when were the lots split? Maybe a fence post or gate post.

Leah Frances 04-14-2011 08:24 PM

Start talking to your neighbors. I've learned tons from the old timers in my neighborhood about my old property.

user1007 04-14-2011 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeakyhinge (Post 629619)
A cistern is for water, right? Aren't you supposed to be able to climb into a cistern? For cleaning or something. We had a house once with downspouts dropping to a cistern; it had an "access panel" on top of 5 foot circular concrete.

I hope it was filled with something appropriate. Wonder if it could be some sort of outlet for an "artesian well".

I restored an antique railway worker house in East Urbana Illinois. Gorgeous cutey of a house with magnificent oak and cherry floors. Next door were my gorgeous geezer neighbors who had on their property this huge cistern you could walk around in. It must have served acres of farmland or something but was capped off and dry. It served as a bomb shelter for a time and then as an underground dollhouse for their girls. It was really cool, in many ways, with girly wallpaper and all sorts of stuff.

Anyhow, remembering your post, if you want to crawl into it and figure out what it is or what it was? Fine. I would stick a scope down first before I crawled into one I didn't know though.

From what you said it is the only source of leaks into your basement so if it were me, and if there is no pirate treasure left inside, I would cap whatever is feeding in and out of it and close the sucker shut. It is probably deeper than you foundation and even that continuous slow leak will come to haunt you some day.

Squeakyhinge 04-15-2011 09:09 PM

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/...e/CIMG0061.jpg

Here's a new closeup. Used a garden hose to flush dirt out of pipe. The pipe is 2 1/2 feet deep with solid "obstruction" at the bottom. Still scratching my head.

Will ask some oldtimers in the neighborhood what it is. Or what was common back in the day.

Pipe is iron about 3 inches. Seems odd for a fence post. Seems too big for a well outlet too. I'm guessing it was an inlet for rain water from the roof?

Have yet to find out how deep it goes, but the sides are as you see it unless something gets larger down farther.

As you can see it is putting a big stop on the french drain and possibly revealing a bigger problem than run off water. Any ideas?

oh'mike 04-16-2011 06:14 AM

I'm still putting my money on a clothes line.

DangerMouse 04-16-2011 06:48 AM

I'm with Mike. Keep digging and tip it over..... I'm also betting it was a clothesline.

DM

BigD9 04-16-2011 07:31 AM

3" diameter pipe set in concrete? My bet is a old fashion type 6 foot diameter satellite dish foundation.


http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...oMRT2JJ9m_P_gw


My House:eek:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...AWWMJc86Cy0CZf

loneframer 04-16-2011 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigD9 (Post 630391)
3" diameter pipe set in concrete? My bet is a old fashion type 6 foot diameter satellite dish foundation.


http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...oMRT2JJ9m_P_gw


My House:eek:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...AWWMJc86Cy0CZf

Nice. Those newer, smaller dishes are way less offensive than the old ones.:)

chrisn 04-16-2011 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 630350)
I'm still putting my money on a clothes line.

Me too:thumbup:

High Gear 04-18-2011 11:53 PM

Way more concrete then I ever used for a clothesline..

oh'mike 04-19-2011 06:48 AM

I dug one out of my folks back yard once that was every bit as large---


Clothes poles were taken very seriously back in the old days!!!!


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