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Old 07-25-2013, 08:15 AM   #31
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I still have not decided on which floor heating system to use. Is there any reason, or should I try salvage the system that is still in place? I was planning on ripping it all out and replacing it. I am going to HD to replace my valve later this morning. After I get the valve replaced, the next step will be to remove the remaining tile/thinset/and subfloor heat plumbing. Can I save it or should I rip it out and start with an all new system?

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Wow, this all looks very familiar. Im in the middle of doing 2 bathrooms myself.
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:21 AM   #33
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I went to HD and got my Moen valve, also confirmed they have the membrane, mortar mix, and all the other materials nessessary to do this job. I'm going to a local plumbing supply store to get a square drain valve. Today the valve gets soldered in place, and the remaining tile is getting removed, thanks for all the help everyone!

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If the old system is working well and the tile is still sound---you may be safe tiling right over the old floor--Just a thought---How old is the existing system? What are the heating coils made of?
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That's the question? What are the coils made of? The house is 35 years old, built in 1978.

The system works fine as far as I can tell, I just want to be maintenance free for another 35 years.
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I guess I'll try to expose whats under the tile to see what it is, before I commit to actually removing it.
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If that is the case--replace with PEX or consult with you nearest hydronic heating supplier for the proper stuff---there are spacer blocks available to hold the tubing in place before you pour a new top coat---
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What is PEX? That must be the mix or substance that holds the water coils in place under the thin set and tile.
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PEX is the plastic pipe that the water runs through---
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OK, the floor had copper tubbing under the tile, and some kind of mortar mix. The top of the rafters are flush with the top of what is visible now. They must have installed some structure mid span of the rafters to support the mortar mix that is still in place between the rafters. I guess they did this to lower the floor some, so that after adding the 2" of mortar mix to house the copper tubing, it would not be too high. There are some considerable high spots I'll have to deal with.
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Here is one of the high spots
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I loosely coiled the copper tubing and layed it in the shower while I was removing the tile floor. Tomorrow I need to go up into the attic and figure out how to terminate the supply & return for these lines.
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This is where the lines exit under the drywall. It looks like larger tubing was used behind the drywall, and pitched down and soldered where it exits the wall and used to enter the mortar mix.
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