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Old 07-21-2013, 05:57 PM   #16
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The plumbing seems to be OK, I guess I should replace this valve while I have access to it. I need to replace it with a high quality unit that will last another thirty five years like the original. Who make makes quality plumbing? I prefer to avoid anything made in China.
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:10 PM   #17
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Now that I have removed the membrane and drain fitting, I understand how the drain fitting works. Four bolts attach it to the plumbing, while sandwiching the membrane. It is a two piece unit, with the base being bolted down, then the second upper plate can be rotated to increase or decrease its height, so as to allow for floor pan/ tile thickness.
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:58 AM   #18
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Now you are ready to work on the new shower----I use Moen and Delta mixers----

What is the drain pipe made of? If it is copper or galvanized steep--replace the P-trap with PVC----
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I'm pretty sure the sewage/gray water plumbing is all PVC, it was crusty and messy in that shower yesterday, I did not clean and inspect the drain fitting, by the time I wrestled that lead membrane into a small enough shape to fit through the window, I was whooped!

After the wrestling match with the shower membrane, I hopped on the lawn mower to cut the grass, before the forecast rain. Unfortunately my left rear tire went flat on the mower, with the unfinished lawn awaiting my attention, with looming rain.

I'm planning on a dump run and a stop at the mower shop this morning, I really want to finish the grass before its too tall.

Having said that, I might not get to the remaining tile removal today.

The lead membrane was strong enough to hold its shape, by nailing it to the studs only. Do I need to install some wood between the studs to provide strong walls for the new membrane to attach to? Since the new membranes are flimsy unlike the lead. How far up the walls should the membrane extend? 12-18"? I seem to remember seeing that in the link you provided, I will view it against after I get this lawn under control.

Thanks for the help Mike!
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How to build a shower - Building a shower pan with pre-sloped mortar bed, liner and curb.

I usually go up the wall about 10" to 12"--no need for blocking --you want the stud bays open so you can fold and tuck the membrane into the open bays---
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OK, I removed the toilet, sink & cabinet and the remaining tile on the walls. The only tile left is on the floor. I went up in the attic and turned off the water valves, there was one on each side of the pump, and one on the return. The plumbing in the attic for this floor heat system is PVC. I guess there are two lines behind the drywall feeding the underfloor system. Is there anything I need to do or be carefully about as I remove the remaining tile, thinset and hot water heating system? I know there will be some water leakage at some point when I break the lines. I'm planning on ripping it all out tomorrow. Thanks!
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This is where the Cabinet sat.
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This is where the toilet sat.
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This stuff is about two inches thick.
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I went to HD to look at tile with my wife. I wanted to give her a chance to pick the color tile, and I wanted to new control valve for the shower. They had Moen, Delta and American Standard, among others. My wife liked the American Standard style and appearance,so I asked the salesman where American Standard products are made, and his reply was in the USA. So that's what I bought.
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I open the box to make sure it will fit and do what I want it to do, and there is a sticker on the valve that says made in Mexico.
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I want a high quality valve that will not fail, is this valve a high quality valve? I am only doing this job once, at least that's the plan. Should I return this and buy a Moen or Delta?
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I went to HD to look at tile with my wife. I wanted to give her a chance to pick the color tile, and I wanted to new control valve for the shower. They had Moen, Delta and American Standard, among others. My wife liked the American Standard style and appearance,so I asked the salesman where American Standard products are made, and his reply was in the USA. So that's what I bought.
Really you believed the guy at HD
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I want a high quality valve that will not fail, is this valve a high quality valve? I am only doing this job once, at least that's the plan. Should I return this and buy a Moen or Delta?
Take a look at Symmons and take a look at a plumbing supply house. Can't say for sure, but some manufacturers make products specifically for the big box stores and the quality is not the same.
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I want a high quality valve that will not fail, is this valve a high quality valve? I am only doing this job once, at least that's the plan. Should I return this and buy a Moen or Delta?

Yes--return that and get Moen or Delta---you will not be sorry---

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