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Old 08-22-2013, 09:14 AM   #1
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I have a 100 yr old brick 4-square, with maple flooring on the first floor. I will be putting engineered hardwood on about half, and would like ceramic tile on the other half, which is the kitchen, laundry, mudroom, main entry and half bath.
I would prefer to go over the maple with the engineered wood and the tile, rather than tear out the maple. The maple is solid, but has so many patches and stains that the cost of restoring and reusing is high, and we would prefer tile in the kitchen/bath/laundry anyway.

But I'm prepared to "do it right". This is a fine old house, on a great lot in Northern Wisconsin.
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Put a proper underlayment over the maple such as backerboard, ditra,or a mudjob, hardwood slats are improper as an underlayment and your tile will eventually come up..
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don't be lazy, get rid of the hardwood floors first so you don't raise the level of your floors. then throw down two layers of cement board (two thin layers layed down in opposite directions will strengthen and almost level the floor) then tile. If you find an old skool tile guy he/she will prefer to level the floor himself/herself with a mortar bed
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Got some strange suggestions so far and both are for sure not the way any real flooring guy would do it.
Tile backer adds 0 strength to a floor. It's just there to give the thin set and tile something to grip to.
First red flag is 100 year old house.
The joist in any old house I've worked on are under sized, over spanned, almost never flat. More often then not there's a sag in the middle and the old hardwood will be cupped.
Tile can not have any movement or the grout and the tile will crack.
What's under that old hardwood? Often times in old homes it was done one of two ways.
Nailed directly to the joist, or over 1 X" installed on a diagonal.
Just going over the old floor is going to throw off all your base boards, doorways, kitchen cabinets.
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don't be lazy, get rid of the hardwood floors first so you don't raise the level of your floors. then throw down two layers of cement board (two thin layers laid down in opposite directions will strengthen and almost level the floor) then tile. If you find an old skool tile guy he/she will prefer to level the floor himself/herself with a mortar bed
Yikes!!!

Joe is spot on-----loads of bad advice today----

Remove the Maple---make sure the joists are up to the task--check a deflection chart and bring them up to the standard for tile---

Add a good quality plywood to the top of the old subfloor005/8" or 3/4" BC exterior glue--then a tile backer--1/4" Wonderboard set in thinset and nailed--or a membrane---

Do NOT leave the maple---Do NOT expect backer board to strengthen the floor--Self leveling compound is used to flatten minor leveling---mortar beds are rarely used---Mike----
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