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Old 05-08-2008, 09:07 PM   #1
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Is it ok to put 12x12 inch ceramic tile over 1/4 inch hardibacker in a shower stall. Thanks

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If you're talking about the walls, you should use 1/2".
What will you do about waterproofing?

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Thanks Angus, I kind of thought it would have to be 1/2 inch. I already had the 1/4 inch on hand. I already have water resistant drywall up behind a fiberglass tub/shower that I installed a few years ago. Ok to put the hardibacker over the drywall? I'm getting everything I need together before taking the old shower out and starting on the tile. I've been a diy'er for several years but have never done a tile shower before. I've been to a few different web-sites to get the information I need. Hopefully everything will turn out ok. Thanks again. Cramer
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:55 PM   #4
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You should remove what's there to the studs. Add the 1/2" Hardi. Now you should waterproof the hardi. I understand you may not like the added cost but you won't like the eventual mold that'll appear later either. There are a few common materials to use....Kerdi which a waterproof mat that you thinset to the hardi and then tile over OR you could liquid waterproof with a product like RedGard that you paint over the hardi, let dry and then tile. After you tile, make sure you caulk any holes from the plumbing and caulk, not grout any changes in tile plane (like the 90 corners).
I understand this process is new to many DIYers. There is no water proof drywall or wall board. The only wall board product I know of that will WATERPROOF is Wedi board. That would take the place of the hardi and additional water proofing, although you'd still need to seal the screw holes and joints. Good luck trying to find that product locally. While you shouldn't have mold currently because you had a fiberglass surround (that was your waterproofing), I see almost 100% of showers done the old way (hardi and the tile only) have mold. Tile and grout does not make a surround waterproof. Water can and will eventually get behind. Do yourself a favor and address the situation now when you have the chance. No one would knowingly ask for mold. Without waterproofing, that's what you are setting up the situation to be.

Good luck and don't be afraid to ask questions. Mold is nothing to play around with nor is water damage. Do it right and you'll have a beautiful shower for the life of your home.

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Angus,

Thanks for the information. That's a good tip about sealing the hardibacker with the Red Guard. I'll see if I can get that or some similar product.

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Try DensShield by Georgia Pacific. I use it frequently and love it. Nothing wrong with the other procedure, just more hassel (IMO) than necessary. Here is a link to the product

http://www.gp.com/build/product.aspx?pid=4684
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Well there ya go. DenSheild is the same procedure as Wedi.
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Looks like a good product, whats it cost?
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Question for you where do you get red guard?
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Looks like a good product, whats it cost?
I don't know about Wedi cost. genecarp from the pro site was talking about it. I believe he saw it in person at Coverings in Orlando and was very impressed with all of the pre-made shower pieces they offer. They do seem to offer a lot of nice products however, I understand they are still hard to find locally. A quick search and there's really no info on where to buy aside from their own sales department. I have no reason to stray from what I use....Schluter.

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Question for you where do you get red guard?
Redgard is made by Custom Building Products which is carried by most Home Depots. This doesn't mean HD will have it in stock so maybe call first.

Here's a link to the product's website:

http://www.custombuildingproducts.co...er=arc&lang=en
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