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Old 09-25-2007, 12:54 PM   #61
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Kui****g, you should really pick up a couple woodworking books or subscribe to a magazine like WOOD or something along those lines if you're going to get involved with this kind of woodworking. Not only for your safety, so you do it right the first time (hopefully) and don't waste your money on mistakes.

If you use the finger jointed panels, your layout lines cannot intersect with a finger joint. Two pieces of solid stock will give you a much nicer finished product.

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Old 09-25-2007, 12:54 PM   #62
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I see... I will go with solid wood ... the hek... already spend close to $300 bucks... anyway... here is how I imagine I can do it... I angle the table saw... then between the saw blade and the work piece, I insert a small fix 1" or narrower wood, then cut together both this work piece and the 1" wood... it seems like the work piece edge will then be cut a little bit...

or this idea won't work....

Update on the progress:

so far the closet already housing double the capacity as before... I am just working on the center shelf... where the side shelfs which hanging cloths already kind of done and been used... our closet is a square kind of shape, so it is not a one directional structure... instead the closet has three sides... east,west side mainly for hanging cloths, north side is a shelf only....

thanks for the advice Jeekinz, will sure try some books from the library on next visit... I am already reading some router books... information just overwhelmed, just cannot wait and read... want to get my hand on things... really hook on the closet shelf stuff.. as we have 5 or six closets in the house.... both me and my wife see a lot of benefit in rearranging the closet... hasn't seriously watch any TV since this closet stuff start... still need to watch the babies though....

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Old 09-25-2007, 01:01 PM   #63
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I agree with jeekinz. A basic woodworking book from the book store would really help you out more than we can.

I think in your last post your suggesting a way to profile the edge on the table saw? I'm not sure i understand it though. What's the extra piece doing?

Also, if you angle the saw blade, always put the fence away from the side the fence is tilted to. Otherwise you're likely to shoot the workpiece out the front of the saw which is usually right at OCH. (Operator Crotch Height)

Without using any extra pieces, you can angle the saw blade to 45, and put a simple chamfer around the edges of your drawer front. Anything more elaborate would require a router.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:15 PM   #64
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what I thinking is a spacer kind of thing... so that the working piece is not get cut from bottom to top, but may be from 3/4th the height to the top so the resultant shape is a U shape rather than a V shape.... thanks for the tips for table saw....
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You should purchase these books so you always have them. I have a small cabinet in my shop dedicated to woodworking. I use them all the time. Books on sharpening, equipment, homebuilding, woodworking, plumbing.

Look through the books and magazines near the checkout at Lowes or Home Depot.
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what I thinking is a spacer kind of thing... so that the working piece is not get cut from bottom to top, but may be from 3/4th the height to the top so the resultant shape is a U shape rather than a V shape.... thanks for the tips for table saw....
If you angle the blade to 45, and then move the fence so it is 5 1/2" away from the base of the blade, and run a 6" wide board through, it will cut off just the bottom corner edge, only about "3/4th the height to the top".
Is that what you're trying to do? No need for a spacer.

A curved U shape isn't really possible with a table saw. (You actually can use a table saw to cut coves of various profiles, but this is really an "advanced tablesaw" technique, and is probably not wise to try on a little contractor saw anyways.)
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Personally, I would move the fence about 5/8" from the blade and run all 4 sides at once....like building a raised panel.
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you are right... thanks....
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Personally, I would move the fence about 5/8" from the blade and run all 4 sides at once....like building a raised panel.
yeah. Good point. I got lost in trying to understand Kui****g's plan with the spacer etc.

The proper way to do that is just as Jeekinz says.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:53 AM   #70
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People, I spent $80 bucks to buy a used Router

PORTER CABLE MODEL 690LRVS ROUTER

I think it will do a good front drawer... yes... don't worry... I will do a lot of reading before turning on the switch for safty reason....
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That's a good basic router. The main rule with routing is the "right hand rule". Make a an "L" shape with your right hand, palm down. Put your hand on top of the router. Your thumb points at the workpiece, your index finger points the way the router should be pushed along the workpiece.

This also works upside down. If your router is in a router table, just turn your right hand palm-up. Put it on top of the workpiece to be routed. Now the index finger points which direction the workpiece moves along the cutter, and the thumb points at the edge to be cut.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:03 PM   #72
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thanks... I am considering two router tables:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA:IT&ih=003
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http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA:IT&ih=003

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Those look nice, but JEEZUS!! $30 and $60 for shipping? That's half the cost of the table!
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MDF for sure is fast and easy and cheap....

Wood board requires painting or stain... and if stain is choosen... you are talking about a lot of work and $$

but one good thing about wood board is if you ever screw in a wrong screw in a location... no big deal... correct it and wood filler the previous hole... MDF is different story.... correction means structure weakening and damage and many times board become unusable... ....etc..

I really almost done... my closet is not that big... but I think we kind of make the best use of its space... I will post a picture sometime next week... unfortunately... I am unable to post the picture naked, as a lot of cloths already hanged everywhere which mean my art cannot be shown in 100%...well... at least you can see how many cloths this thing can now hold....

DIY also allow you to change your design in the implementation process which we did a few times already.... this is also why using wood board is good idea... use MDF changing design is more difficult....

closet project is a good stepping stone for more serious wood working down the road...
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http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/closet_1.jpg

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/closet_3.jpg

the first picture is the master bed room one

the second picture is the first floor one

the second one take me 2 hour to finish as it use MDF which requires no finishing wood but the first one takes me 2 weeks to finish because it requires wood finish a lot of wait and a lot of work....

unfortunately, the closet is rather small to allow me to take picture easily....
so the view does not really show a lot.. I didn't take pictures to show all three side but two.... but believe me... it is much much better than before where the builder just put three sticks one on each side of the wall....

again closet is a very easy project for anyone ... DIY .... don't even try to buy any custom made cost a lot of money.... the first closet cost me approx 300 bucks(require wood finishing), the second one cost me 40 bucks(MDF)...


I am waiting for my router to arrive to go for more challenging wood working in the future...


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