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Old 07-11-2014, 03:41 PM   #16
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Okay, I'll be counting on you, BigJim!

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Oh, the platform under the stairs can be removed as much as you like up to the carriage. You may have to add some support under it but that shouldn't be any problem. JMHO
BigJim? What's a "carriage"?
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The carriage is the stringer/skirt. After watching the vidio in your link, you may like using a kreg Pocket Hole Jig instead of using biscuits. Here is a link showing how to use one.

You won't need as many tools with the pocket hole jig.

On your stairs, if you tear out what you have now and install a conventional stairs you will have less room under the stairs than you have now. The conventional stringers will protrude down into the space under the stair more than what you have now.

You can make the stairs you have now look good by using caps and a carpet runner. I don't know if your stairs are in code right now or are in code with carpet. The reason I say this is you may be able to cap the entire tread if it doesn't make the rise on the first and last step to be a different height.
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Dawg, as far as the studs I removed from the outside wall of the staircase, there was nothing attached to them except the sheetrock. I kid you not. So that wall wasn't strengthening my staircase one whit.
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BigJim? What's a "carriage"?
The part that sits on the platform at the foot of the stairs that you want to cut back.
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Holy mackerel, BigJim! Code with carpet? My stairs may HAVE to be carpeted? I just tore it all out.

Would carpet treads bring a staircase back into code? I priced out those sisal ones - they're beachy and I think they look fetching! (I'm in Florida here and with the sand and all, carpeting felt really icky on bare feet.)

I thought about capping the entire tread, too, but I would still have to have a closed tread on the one side.

I'll have to give this whole project some dedicated thought. Hmmmm.

Oh, and thank you for the video - it's another chick! I will watch it now.
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I didn't make that very clear did I, what I meant was, were all the risers the same height with the carpet on them? Carpet will make up a certain amount of thickness when added to the top of the tread, well anything will add to the rise when added to the top of a tread.

If all the risers are the same all the way up the stairs it will be in code but, for example, if you were to add say 2 inches to the top of each tread, the first rise would be 2 inches taller than the last rise at the top of the stairs. The stairs would be out of code. Measure from the floor to the top of the first tread at the bottom of the stairs. Then measure from the top tread to the landing at the top of the stairs, they should be the same.

Since you have removed the carpet the rise of the bottom riser and the top riser may be a different height. If you decide to leave what you have now and add a tread cap on top of the existing tread, the risers will be changed. What ever you do decide to do, the rise can not exceed 3/8 inch difference in any of the risers.
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Phew! Loud and clear, BigJim. Thanks for the clarification. I was starting to sweat under the arms. LOL

I will be removing the tile that's on both the bottom landing and the top landing. The subfloor most likely will be some kind of cement board, so most likely that will be coming out too. I hope to be able to correct any irregularities, if there are any, when I change the subfloors of the landings and add the hard wood. Does that sound like a possible plan if necessary?
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Sounds like a plan. We are here if you need us.
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Wish I would have jumped in sooner, but everyone else beat me to it... Oh well, such is the joy of doing paperwork... OH and BTW, WELCOME to the Forum Chukker! See your From PA and Florida, PA here, enjoy your stay here on the forum, and go back to florida before we get hit with another winter like last lol.
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Great video, BigJim, about the Kreg Pocket Hole Jig. I was quite amazed!

It opens up a whole new world of projects, doesn't it? LOL

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