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Old 12-27-2011, 03:42 PM   #1
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Good day all.

Thanking all in advance for any ideas.


We have just recently purchased a 33yr old bungalow and wish to make main level open concept thh removing all walls around kitchen/dining room/living room.

After speaking with an inspector, 2 handymen and a carpenter (and receiving different answers) I decided to remove the gyproc and see what was under the board.
I'm thinking the wall in kitchen is not load bearing as all 2x4, space between top of wall(with drywall above space) and nothing doubled up other than door frames.
There is a big I-Beam running full length of basement and roof trusses are manufactured (support trusses) according to previous owner.

I'm hoping to not get a structural engineer and am including some pics for the pros to peek at.
Any ideas/recommendations much appreciated!
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It looks like those trusses are designed to span the total distance so removing the wall is not an issue. I'm sure this is the general consensous among the inspector and the carpenters, is it not?

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The walls you tore down are not load bearing walls.
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Home Inspector was the first one to say remove any walls on main that we wish.

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Home Inspector was the first one to say remove any walls on main that we wish.

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Yup. Save a few pennies and definitely do not call in a structural engineer or an architect. Trust the box store apron people more than any others.

Just out of curiosity. Why did you buy this place if your goal was to strip it of its inherent character?
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sdsester, I would have at least done it also. The worst thing is to cut the Kitchen off from everyone else, plus they are probably if you measured it, looking at a very small Kitchen space. When we get our upstairs built, I am taking out the wall between our living room and the front bedroom to open that up. I think that the OP place would look great once done, and would like to see pictures of it after they are done.
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looks like structural trusses, to me. though I may run a 2x6 or 2x8 strong backs down both sides to be safe.
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I've said it before and will say it again. Architects are not just for the rich. This project looks like some inspector or agency is going to want to see drawings before passing it. An architect called in now is going to save loads---maybe tons of money and aggravation on this project. Of course orange and blue apron folk at box stores have the same capability.
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looks like structural trusses, to me. though I may run a 2x6 or 2x8 strong backs down both sides to be safe.
Come on Coupe. The structure looks fine but do you or I have a clue as to what, for example, it all sits on? You sure you want to add 2x6 or 2x8 timber on the edges if there are but foam cups for foundations support? I assume given the images of the trusses their is a real foundation. Haven't seen it though. I sort of hate these post where we only get to react to the immediate parts of a project without a look at the real bones of a house.

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Looks to me like they are 2 point trusses.
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ok number one... big box store employoyees are normally useless when it comes to asking questions about removing structure... especially the young ones. secondly without them seeing what you doing they have no way of knowing what exactly is there.. this is why there are professionals such as myself.. i do this sort of thing on a regular basis and when i do we have a engineer come in and take a quick look at the start, then we remove the drywall and plaster to expose the framing and then the engineer comes back for a closer look only then can you say yes or no to removing walls without putting in beams.

now no more ranting.. based on what im seeing there it definitely looks like you have clear span trusses. it also clearly shows that the wall you want to take down was put up after the fact as the drywall is installed over top of it by the looks of things
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I've said it before and will say it again. Architects are not just for the rich. This project looks like some inspector or agency is going to want to see drawings before passing it. An architect called in now is going to save loads---maybe tons of money and aggravation on this project. Of course orange and blue apron folk at box stores have the same capability.
You don't need a permit or an inspection to remove partition walls like these. The OP is welcome to spend money on an architect, but the fact that those walls don't go all the way up against the trusses leave no doubt as to whether they bear any loads or not (not). Those partition walls were framed correctly: trusses should not have walls up to them to "help" with bearing their load. I think that if you did, the trusses would become indeterminate systems (or something like that) and you would not know any more which members of the truss are in tension and which are in compression.

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