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longislander2 10-04-2013 04:10 PM

Question about tiling around Jacuzzi tub
 
We are remodeling a master bath and want to keep the existing Jacuzzi tub. It is set into a wooden platform that is covered in ceramic tile on the top and front. Our contractor is removing and replacing the old tile, but he noticed that the top (horizontal) surface of the enclosure has the original tiles set in cement. He told me that, to remove these tiles and the cement underneath, he had to disconnect the tub and lift it out of the enclosure. However, since the bottom of the tub is set in mud, the plumber has told us that the tub cannot be lifted out and we will ruin it if we try. The contractor says he cannot pry out the old tiles and cement from under the tub rim without damaging the fiberglass.

The contractor has proposed two solutions:
1. Glue the new tile right over the existing tile on the top of the enclosure, provided he can make smooth cuts so that the new tiles fit snugly against the rim of the tub, including its rounded corners.
2. Have a stone (either natural or manmade) fabricator cut a new top for the top of the tub platform and then glue that over the old tiles.

I would like to go with option # 1 since it will be cheaper. Has anyone run into this problem? Any advice or thoughts would be much appreciated.

wkearney99 10-04-2013 07:48 PM

I'd wonder whether the labor to work around the tub might end up costing more than just replacing the tub. Or the on-going repair costs to keep fixing it, again, and again.

Has anyone actually tried to raise the tub a bit? Sure, it'd need to have the drain disconnected, and any other plumbing if it's actually ON the tub. That and the electric to the pump. Carefully cut the caulk around the top and all the tile on the side. Get clear access to see about gently prying it up a bit. Trouble is you're unlikely to be able to re-seat it back into it's current bed. But if it comes up well enough then it ought to be able to go back down into a new bed. Hard to say without looking at it.

longislander2 10-07-2013 10:21 AM

Thanks for the helpful advice. We're still noodling this.

longislander2 10-09-2013 08:04 AM

The tile guy came yesterday and said he was confident he could put the new tile top over the old. We'll see.

wkearney99 10-09-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by longislander2 (Post 1251348)
The tile guy came yesterday and said he was confident he could put the new tile top over the old. We'll see.

Isn't the current tub laid ON the old tile? And it's fiberglass, right? So how is the new tile being laid up against the side of the tub's lip NOT going to have expansion or movement problems? You'll end up with an ugly as sin caulking hassle all around it. If not right away then eventually when the grout put right against the tub cracks (and it WILL).

I mean, hey, it's your choice, but that's not one I'd feel good about choosing.

md2lgyk 10-09-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wkearney99 (Post 1251401)
Isn't the current tub laid ON the old tile? And it's fiberglass, right? So how is the new tile being laid up against the side of the tub's lip NOT going to have expansion or movement problems? You'll end up with an ugly as sin caulking hassle all around it. If not right away then eventually when the grout put right against the tub cracks (and it WILL).

I mean, hey, it's your choice, but that's not one I'd feel good about choosing.

Agree. That plumber's suggestion is total crap. And why would a plumber be doing a tile job anyway? If this were my master bath, I'd hold off the remodel until I could afford to replace the tub. Well, actually, I'd get rid of the thing entirely, but that's just me. Our master bath doesn't even have a tub, only a huge walk-in shower. We built it that way on purpose.

longislander2 11-01-2013 12:31 PM

Our tile guy actually did a superb job laying the new tile over the old. He used latex caulk around the tub rim. We'll see how it holds up since we will be using the tub only periodically. Let's just say that, thanks to the advice from some of you, we have been warned!

wkearney99 11-01-2013 01:05 PM

Good to hear you've made progress. Let's hope it works out well!

longislander2 11-01-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wkearney99 (Post 1261061)
Good to hear you've made progress. Let's hope it works out well!

Thanks for the good wishes. Of course, the contractor installed new drywall across the front of the Jacuzzi enclosure and I just found out that he never checked to see if it was plumb (How hard is it to use a level?), even though it has already been tiled over. Our new vanity butts up against the wall in one spot and, since the side of it is plumb, we now have a triangle-shaped gap between the Jacuzzi wall and the side of the vanity. I told the contractor he's got to fix it somehow. BTW, this is the guy who's going to install our $30K worth of kitchen cabinets. Oh, well . . .

wkearney99 11-01-2013 02:34 PM

Awwwww man! That sucks!

12penny 11-01-2013 03:26 PM

Pictures?

firehawkmph 11-01-2013 08:43 PM

LI,
The last master bath redo I did, I ran into the same issue with the jacuzzi tub. Plumber buddy and I disconnected the supply lines and the drain and the tub popped right out of the cement with not too much pressure at all. None of the concrete stuck to the bottom of the tub. Tore the whole deck apart to resize and then retailed. Set the tub back in on top of the tile with cement underneath again. Worked out well and was the right way to do it. I would hesitate to let this contractor install your kitchen after what he did in your bathroom.
Mike Hawkins :)

wkearney99 11-02-2013 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by firehawkmph (Post 1261234)
I would hesitate to let this contractor install your kitchen after what he did in your bathroom.

Agreed. Especially since it's something you'll see and use everyday.


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