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Old 04-03-2014, 11:43 PM   #1
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If anyone has any good ideas for this let me know. This is a patio on the ground floor of a condo. You can see the wide open "window" space and the exterior is a stucco-like material (don't know my siding options very well.) The HOA says no nails or screws may pierce the siding, if any screening is added.

What is desired is a privacy sort of screen, so air can still circulate and you can see out to a certain extent, but other condos or people walking in the courtyard can't see in very well. Also, need a system to hold it in place. I'm thinking some sort of "ZipWall" sort of setup, but don't have anything specific in mind. Of course we could always attach to the rail with U bolts or something like that at the bottom.

Looking for a) the type of screening and b) the attachment method, thanks.
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have you walked around the condo site to see if anyone else has something similar to what you are looking for?

gonna be difficult to install something without fasteners that would stand up to wind loads.

wish I had a solution for you, good luck!

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Maybe a picture from the courtyard perspective will get some juices flowing.
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No other screens in the area.

Don't have the courtyard perspective, but you'd just be looking at the rectangular hole.

My idea right now is to use some sort of pole such as a shower pole, that can be twisted to expand, and pressure 2 pieces of wood, 1 on top and 1 on bottom, that could be slotted to hold spline. This would then be temporary, and obviously very easy to take down when moving.

Perhaps something like this, although at this price it doesn't seem super high quality.
http://www.plowhearth.com/7-pack-of-...urtain-rod.htm

Three of those - 1 on each end and 1 in the middle - ought to be enough to hold the frame in place I would think. Since the patio is a closed space, wind shouldn't affect it much. In other words, when wind blows, it will be blowing primarily past the screen sideways, and not through it. And this is a courtyard, not an open field.

Edit: these prices seem more like it
http://www.plowhearth.com/66-120-sta...unt-joiner.htm

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You are talking about regular window type screen material?
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Yes, I'm looking at Phifer SunTex right now.
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How large is the opening? I would be inclined to make a wood frame with spline molding that fits snug between the floor and ceiling. Put the top in position then push/tap the bottom out until it is tight in the opening. Maybe two or three panels to make up the width.
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96" high by 158" wide. I don't think your idea would work since there is so little room to work with, with the handrail there.
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What about something like this? You said no attachment to the siding but what about the beam?
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Unfortunately, the "beam" is actually just the same stucco material. Can't attach to anything except the hand rail (and that would be with U bolts or something, not directly drilling into it.)
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The only thing I can think of for an attachment point and have it look nice would be to have metal fabricated to cradle the beam and the stem wall below. You've been handed a tall order to hang something from nothing.
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I would think you would be better off building a fully self supported structure (i.e. a 4 x 4 post at either end, with a foot plate and gusset, and a 158" long 2x6 top and bottom to tie it together). Its not really much lumber when you think about it -- cedar would look nice. Then you would have a 2x6 top and bottom to mount the shade rollers to. I think you have the right idea on the material --- I have similar material 72% blocking over top of my deck --- does a good job of blocking the sun but you can still see through it. I would go to any local awning place and ask what they have for a good price on 3 shade rollers about 48" wide, with open material as you describe.
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Actually, on second look, it looks like in the link you posted, the "Palisade" model might have an option for posting to a post system, which might attach to the cement floor. I might be able to attach there, and it looks like that's the only attachment for that model and that option. I'll call them in the morning and ask - hard to tell exactly from the brochure.
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I would think you would be better off building a fully self supported structure (i.e. a 4 x 4 post at either end, with a foot plate and gusset, and a 158" long 2x6 top and bottom to tie it together).
Any picture link to give me a better idea of what you're talking about?
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I don't have a real picture, but hear is a quick sketch of what I mean.
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