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Old 01-24-2011, 07:29 AM   #16
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I get it Ron. I've installed this type before. My best guess is that the install failed. I also should have explained myself further. I should have said in front of recess. I did not mean to fill the trough with caulk.
Do you happen to remember the manufacturer? I'm hitting a dead-end in finding out, including a post over at the John Bridge Tile Forum.

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Old 01-24-2011, 11:48 AM   #17
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Ron and Mop,

So I'm a little confused...indulge my ignorance. While I don't quite see why they are there based on your description of purpose, I understand they are molded into the base and so serve a need. I say I don't see why they are there because if they are to catch water from inside the shower, and are not weep holes to allow moisture to vent from behind the tiles, then why not just make the base smooth? I'll appreciate understanding that, if you can help me.

On to correcting the install...Are you saying the part where it angles towards the front should be caulked, and should have been filled during install, leaving the actual trough open? If so, I can clean and fill without taking the stall apart, correct?
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Ron and Mop,

So I'm a little confused...indulge my ignorance. While I don't quite see why they are there based on your description of purpose, I understand they are molded into the base and so serve a need. I say I don't see why they are there because if they are to catch water from inside the shower, and are not weep holes to allow moisture to vent from behind the tiles, then why not just make the base smooth? I'll appreciate understanding that, if you can help me.

On to correcting the install...Are you saying the part where it angles towards the front should be caulked, and should have been filled during install, leaving the actual trough open? If so, I can clean and fill without taking the stall apart, correct?
The recesses are there so that the water running down the walls does not have a continuous path to the area outside the shower. The water falls into the recesses and back into the shower base. But the water hitting the corners where the shower door is located will sit on the lip of the shower base. That's the water that is getting out of the shower area and staining the wall base.
To fix the issue, you need to:
1. Remove the shower door and the tracks on the wall.
2. You need to clean and dry the area from the recesses to the exterior edge of the base.
3. You need to open the area between the shower base and the wall material so you have at least 1/8" space all the way back to the shower base lip.
4. Clean and dry that throughly.(Use a hair dryer)
5. Use a 100% silicone caulk to fill the gap from the recess to the showerbase front.
6. Replace the door frame(after cleaning the wall surface), caulking the interface of the track and the wall on the inside of the shower.
7. Wait at least 24 hours before using the shower.
You're done.
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Thanks, Ron. If the right way to correct is to pull it apart then that's what I'll do. Don't want to fix a failed install with a half ass re-install. I appreciate the step by step.
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As I was preparing to repair the install I realized the instructions will not correct the water leak. The drain channel sits under the tile, not under the door rail. I think you can see this in the pics inserted in my previous post.
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As I was preparing to repair the install I realized the instructions will not correct the water leak. The drain channel sits under the tile, not under the door rail. I think you can see this in the pics inserted in my previous post.
The problem is that you do not understand the cause of the water getting out of the shower, even after it's been told to you. Even after you've been told how to fix it, step by step.
Nothing more to be done.

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It seems highly unlikely (or impossible) your steps will fix the leak. You made a previous misdiagnosis stating the water must be coming from a source other than the shower. Then I provided pics and you then suggested a repair to the door. A leak in the seal under/ around the door track cannot possibly be the source of the leak because the track butts against the tile, the tile sits over the track,to much water seeping by to be from a bad silicone job.

No point in explaining further. While I'm sure you have a nice following here and many people will come to your defense, fixing the door seal is not fixing the problem. But just for grins, and because I wnt to prove a point, I repaired the door as you suggested and in two days I'll either eat crow or let you know it failed.
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It seems highly unlikely (or impossible) your steps will fix the leak. You made a previous misdiagnosis stating the water must be coming from a source other than the shower. Then I provided pics and you then suggested a repair to the door. A leak in the seal under/ around the door track cannot possibly be the source of the leak because the track butts against the tile, the tile sits over the track,to much water seeping by to be from a bad silicone job.

No point in explaining further. While I'm sure you have a nice following here and many people will come to your defense, fixing the door seal is not fixing the problem. But just for grins, and because I wnt to prove a point, I repaired the door as you suggested and in two days I'll either eat crow or let you know it failed. Which you'll no doubt claim is the fault of my repair work as opposed to the appropriateness of the repair work.
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Took longer than expected to return.

There was no evidence of water damage associated with a bad install to the door but I initially performed only that repair as recommended. Have since torn the door/ frame back down, pulled the bullnose wall tile to which the door frame was mounted and made some repairs there. Including filling in part of the weep hole which was, in fact, allowing water to enter the wall. This as the cause is also supported as the cause of water damage by the fact the aforementioned ants were entering the shower through the weep hole. If the ants are coming in then the water can get out. They certainly were not coming in around the door/ frame. No continued water damage for the past week or ten days. Problem solved.
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Thanks for the update.

Did you happen to take any pictures during the process?

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