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Old 11-06-2011, 03:07 PM   #16
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The room is 123" (stove side) by 109.5" (sink side)
We don't like the 36" sink cabinet. But can you put a 33" sink on a 30" cabinet? We want a standard sized sink.
The peninsula orginally had the fourth wall behind it, they cut a lot of the wall out to make the kitchen open to the dining room.
We are considering putting stove on the peninsula, that is where it used to be orginally. But wife wants a zephyr stove fan, which requires 7 inch pipe I would have to run across the ceiling. I am not sure there is enough space inside the ceiling to fit a 7 inch duct, also it would mean tearing out the ceiling, and then repairing the joints smooth, more work.
Have you seen the vent hoods that are on the back of the stove? No vent hood above.

Might want to think about it.....even a suspended vent hood looks great....any reason you can go straight up and out the roof?

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Old 11-06-2011, 05:50 PM   #17
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The room is 123" (stove side) by 109.5" (sink side)
We don't like the 36" sink cabinet. But can you put a 33" sink on a 30" cabinet? We want a standard sized sink.
The peninsula orginally had the fourth wall behind it, they cut a lot of the wall out to make the kitchen open to the dining room.
We are considering putting stove on the peninsula, that is where it used to be orginally. But wife wants a zephyr stove fan, which requires 7 inch pipe I would have to run across the ceiling. I am not sure there is enough space inside the ceiling to fit a 7 inch duct, also it would mean tearing out the ceiling, and then repairing the joints smooth, more work.
Non custom kitchen cabinets generally come in 3" intervals. So 27, 30, 33, 36, etc. So you should be able to downsize the cabinet to the sink size.
There are many standard sized sinks. A 33" unit sounds like a double sink.
It would help if you were specific in your details. In a kitchen plan, you need to be detailed down to 1/8" to order the correct cabinets and fillers.
Whether you can put the stove in the peninsula with a top vent will depend on the joist direction and exterior wall proximity. Personally I think a stove in that location exposes it to a greater accident possibility with access from the dining room.
Is the sink currently centered on a window? Any other windows on the 2 walls?
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Old 11-06-2011, 08:32 PM   #18
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This is a 1965 kitchen, small and quirky.
For the stove fan, there is a 6" duct there already from when the stove used to be on the peninsula. I can see the duct at one end, and can feel it at the other where they cut it off. So the joists allow a pipe to run across the kitchen in that direction. What I don't know is if the space will allow a larger 7 or 8" duct. I don't remember how deep floor joists are, and anyways a 1965 building might be different.
The sink is not centered under the window, there is barely enough space to cram the sink and dishwasher together on that side. We also considered ripping out a new window on the stove side, but vetoed that as too much work.
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If anything goes into the peninsula I've always preferred it be the dishwasher - it doesn't occupy counter space and doesn't create a nuisance or potential hazard for people on the other side.

If you put the dishwasher there you'd be able to center the sink on the sink wall, center the oven on the oven wall. . . have two lazy-susans. Dishwashers are simple things to relocate as how their plumbing is flexible-hosing.
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My wife really likes the idea of dishwasher in the peninsula, she wants to do it. But would the longer hot water and waste water hoses cause problems? I've never actually seen a dishwasher placed anywhere besides next to the sink before.
The ceiling joists allow a gap between them of 7.1", so I could run a 7" stove vent pipe through there. It should be safe, since they ran a 6" stove vent pipe through the same place? Don't know if I want to cut out and patch that slice of ceiling drywall, though.
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Nope - no problems that I see as long as it doesn't get twisted up funky during install. You're not talking about an immense increase in distance - one turn and a 3' run if you send it underneath your cabinets.

Look at your local building codes for specs - if my dish-wash drain run is more than 4' I'm suppose to run a new, separate drain line over to it complete with it's own clean out trap. I almost did what you might be doing when I redesigned our kitchen - it wouldn't have been very much work. . .pvc and cpvc pipe is user-friendly and relatively cheap. If I build in an island with a dishwasher I would send all of the plumbing under teh floor (through our crawlspace) and bring it out in the back of the dishwasher cavity all nice and tidy like a sink-connection area.

Always think outside the box and never be afraid to do something just because it's new to you - or different than what you've had before. Happiness comes from having what you want and making things more accessible and user-friendly *to you.* - nothing more annoying than taking the time to redesign, not thinking about certain things that might be issues, and then doing all that work only to regret it and wish you did it differently!
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You can't do a kitchen renovation and worry about a little drywall repair. Most, actually all, major kitchen renovations require a gut job. Walls and floor stripped down to the bones. Insulation needs to be upgraded. That 30 year old electrical needs to be upgraded. Lighting, plumbing, everything behind the walls needs to be checked and probably changed.
Putting in new cabinets and leaving everything else the same is not a good idea.
You can't worry about a little sheetrock. Hire it out if it's not something you want or can do.

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