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Old 12-16-2012, 02:10 AM   #31
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So, are you for hire to finish the Kitchen job that I started two years ago. Look at it this way. You now have something to show off your skills, and be proud of, even thought the wife may go Umph after seeing.

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Old 12-17-2012, 04:26 PM   #32
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I raised everything but putting in sections of 5" copper pipe and joining them with shark bite fittings. I know that I'll take some flak for this but I'm just not confident in my soldering skills.
I know you're already done and have moved on, but, for anyone else reading this thread for inspiration, you can join copper without soldering by using compression fittings. I trust compression far more than Sharkbites.

Although to be fair, Sharkbite on copper is probably more reliable than on Pex that's gonna wiggle every time the water is turned on or off.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:20 PM   #33
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I know you're already done and have moved on, but, for anyone else reading this thread for inspiration, you can join copper without soldering by using compression fittings. I trust compression far more than Sharkbites.

Although to be fair, Sharkbite on copper is probably more reliable than on Pex that's gonna wiggle every time the water is turned on or off.
Sure, compression fittings, or copper couplings, or presoldered couplings, or sharkbite. I was originally going to go with presoldered couplings but decided sharkbite would be faster and just as good. I was told that Sharkbite fittings pass code here for water AND gas, good enough for gas then good enough for me I guess.

Last two days have been pretty tedious. I spent the entire day putting together my vanity, opening up walls to make it possible to secure the vanity, changing the drain lines in the wall, and prepping for paint. Everything is ready for the vanity, just have to hang it and plumb it. Tomorrow morning I'm going paint the walls, hoping to start the floor tile install around 2pm. Once the floor tiles have setup I'll grout everything, install the toilet and vanity, new trim and then... well then I hav e this entire disaster of a house to clean up. Told my wife to stay at her folks for another day. So this reno started a day early and I predict will end a day late. Tiling the shower was a much bigger job than I had anticipated. New respect.



Moving the drain, had to extend it into the corner and get it above the central vacuum line. Still about 8" below the trap.


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Old 12-18-2012, 12:15 AM   #34
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tylernt, show proof in writing that Sharkbite type fittings have failed on Pex? The connection is only as good as the person making it.

Right now, the expected lifespan for Sharkbite type fittings are exceeding the ten years , since they have been in use.

I will tell you this, that Watts are more of a pain in the ass than actual licensed Shark bites, in how they work.
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DutchRudder- I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your plumbing is not good. Because you offset vertically to miss the vac line you now risk having your trap siphon dry when used. It would be much better if you stayed at the original height and used 2- 45's to turn out the wall to miss the vac line.
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tylernt, show proof in writing that Sharkbite type fittings have failed on Pex?
I have no proof. The design just makes me uneasy -- but I don't want to turn this into a Sharkbite debate thread. We now return you to Dutchrudder's regularly scheduled program.
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DutchRudder- I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your plumbing is not good. Because you offset vertically to miss the vac line you now risk having your trap siphon dry when used. It would be much better if you stayed at the original height and used 2- 45's to turn out the wall to miss the vac line.
Explain Eplumber. It looks OK to me. I am trying to learn so i don't make the same mistake on a future project.

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Old 12-18-2012, 09:50 AM   #38
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Is the issue with the drain that it goes to p-trap then down again before hitting the vent? If that's the case, in real life application for this setup I doubt it would ever fill that line up from a vanity drain to cause a siphon to empty the trap.

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Old 12-18-2012, 10:01 AM   #39
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Just in between paint coats here and checking up on my thread. Sharkbite Vs anything else will be an on going debate for ever, so leave it at that.

The drain plumbing. I'm very doubtful that this set up will siphon the trap. The trap sits about 8" higher and 16" to the right of splash mountain. I couldn't go around the central vac line because the vanity sits tight in that corner, I couldn't notch the vanity because it has drawers inside, which is why I needed to move the plumbing tight against the back wall (only 3.5" of room in the back for plumbing). On another note, anyone ever plumb in an Ikea vanity. 1 1/4" to 1 1/2... sounds simple but the ikea plumbing is wicked thin. I ended up going with one of those adapters you would put on the top of a trap and the sink drain feeds straight into it, with a nut you turn to tighten... Oh god just listening to myself try and explain this is painful. I'll take pics tomorrow when it's installed with the flooring.

One question. How long will I have to wait before I can walk on my floor? I'm hoping 24 hours is enough time. It will be laid on Ditra.
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Walls are painted and the floor is down. I figure 24 hours until I can walk on the tiles. So I finished installing them around 6pm... so late, but had some problems as always. Tomorrow will be spent cleaning up this house, taking the trailer to the dump, then at 6 or 7 I'll roll into the bathroom and gout the floor, install the vanity, install the last few tub tiles, install the back splash, toilet, and trim. The following day I'll grout the tub. In the home stretch now.


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Itching to get into the bathroom today, I figured waiting 24 hours was sufficient for the floor tiles to set up... but after about 20 hours I decided that would be enough, you know cause I'm so smart and wise. I was standing in the corner where the vanity will go and I swear I could feel the tile move a little bit. I crept off the floor and decided I'll wait the full 24 hours before getting started. Patience... Patience. Question tough, if the tiles are not grouted, and are applied over ditra, will they move even the slightest? I hope I didn't screw anything up, if I did it wont be the end of the world, the tiles I stood on are under the vanity and will never have another person stand on them again, well until they take out the vanity.
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Alright... I'm pretty much done. All I have left to do is grout the tub area and buy a different mirror. The one I picked up is horrible, to big.

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Old 12-20-2012, 02:28 AM   #45
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Couple pics of the mostly finished bathroom. Finished enough that my wife will be amazed I think. The tub is going to look great when it's all grouted.


Now that the mirror is hung, I like it and am going to keep it.


All moen hardware too.


You can kinda see the vanity. really small space, feels much bigger now.






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