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Old 02-20-2011, 09:26 AM   #1
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I have attached some pics, I am redoing the tile surround in the shower and laying a tile floor and other things. I am having some issues with starting the remodel of the shower area. I have tore down old tiles and drywall came with. Question 1- Should I rip out the rest of the drywall and go right up to the ceiling with cemet board or can I squaare off where I am now and transition the cemet board to the greenboard.

Do i need to do a vabor barrier for between the cement board and studs?
I am using 1/2" cement board and the exisiting green board is 1/2" also
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Question 1- Should I rip out the rest of the drywall and go right up to the ceiling with cemet board or can I squaare off where I am now and transition the cemet board to the greenboard.
I recently built a new tub/shower surround, and did not run the cement board and tile to the ceiling. What I thought I was saving in materials ended up costing me hours of aggravation, and I would never do it that way again.

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If you aren't going to tile the ceiling then transition where you are and don't mess around with the wall/ceiling juncture. Once you tamper with the ceiling corner you run the risk of damaging the ceiling and having that to fix. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

I would eliminate the vapor barrier on the studs and use liquid waterproofing on top of the cement board.

What brand cement board are you using?

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Agree transition materials at corners. Cement board not guaranteed to be exact same thickness as green board. If tiling can hide transition if it its not too big a step. Big step you are shimming IF new material is thinner.

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Cement board thickness variance won't be that much if any. That isn't a major concern in a remodel like this.
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Cement board thickness variance won't be that much if any. That isn't a major concern in a remodel like this.
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If there were to be a variance in thickness in the wallboard it would be that the cement board was smaller. Hardibacker for example is only 7/16" thick even tho they sell it as their "500" product suggesting it is 1/2" thick. Since it is smaller it isn't an issue. That variance can be easily filled and feathered and if it is covered with tile anyway............
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I am using perma base from lowes. 1/2" thick and the exisitng green board is 1/2" thick. Another question is around the end of the sides I have no studs to screw too . What Can I screw to make it stable at the end?
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Add extra wood at the corners to screw the wall board to. Just be sure to line them up with existing studs.
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Add extra wood at the corners to screw the wall board to. Just be sure to line them up with existing studs.
Agree, that's what we did on a manufactured home remodel......didn't have any studs to attatch the drywall, so we took 2x4s and attatched them to the studs that were hidden in corners. Or used brackets to mount studs.....

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You want to have studs spaced 16" on center for cement board otherwise it will flex too much. Somebody will lean hard on that wall and crack the tiles or grout.
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Well guys thanks for the help. I finished the shower surround last night. I will start to grout this evening. Next step will be the floor. I am going to use hardibacker. I am pulling up the linoluem tonight also. There is glue residue left over, Can I go right over the glue and old subfloor with the hardibacker or should I pull up the old subfloor. It is solid and no water damage and would rather not pull it up if I don't have to. I will post some pics later

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