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Old 09-29-2012, 08:27 AM   #31
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It's hard to tell from your picture, but your bottom plate doesn't appear to be pressure treated lumber. It needs to be.

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Old 10-01-2012, 04:03 PM   #32
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Interestingly, the builder used regular (untreated) 2x4 to mount the breaker boxes on the concrete wall and everybody says always use PT wherever it touches concrete! This is a reputable builder btw!
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all bottom plates are treated.

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It's hard to tell from your picture, but your bottom plate doesn't appear to be pressure treated lumber. It needs to be.
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Bottom plate, (or any lumber in contact with concrete) doesn't need to be treated if a sill gasket is used underneath (foam gasket the width of the lumber, stapled to underside). Around here anyways.

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If in the U.S. as kimbhoot is, just the bottom plates (on a wall or slab) require p.t., with or without a sill sealer poly; #3.

Any framing touching the concrete wall needs a v.b. or p.t.; #7; http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...9_3_sec017.htm

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Old 10-01-2012, 10:41 PM   #36
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this last winter wasn't a very cold one but I spent quite a bit of time in the basement without any heating and it didn't feel much cold there. I would definitely consider that once the framing is complete but I'm really trying to address the moisture issue before the framing goes up.

any advise?

i didn't insulate my basement at first. I just framed walls and screwed the sheetrock (no tape, mud or paint) Then a year or two later i pulled all the sheetrock down and insulated. I was so happy i did. It didn't make a whole lot of difference without any heat, but trying to turn a heater on down there was impossible. It wouldn't heat up. Then after i put insulation up, it warmed up as hot as i wanted it to get. Just throw some r11 in there. Everyone will say you need to fill it as full as possible, r19 or whatever, but r11 retains something like 90% of the heat. Its pretty minimal gains after that
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Framing going good and slow so far. I have about 78 linear feet of wall framed. I'm close to a point where I need to frame a bathroom walls. The initial plan was to make the bathroom 5'x9' but I want to increase the width 2 more foot (7'x9'). but not sure what to put in that extra space. maybe a built-in shelf? any design ideas/suggestions/pro/con to this idea?

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Old 10-12-2012, 10:20 PM   #38
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are you putting in a tub? or shower?
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:45 AM   #39
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are you putting in a tub? or shower?
I won't be putting a tub. a standing shower.
something like this maybe
http://erdexon.com/wp-content/upload...m-Shower-1.jpg
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Need a little help with framing around the plumbing.
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There will be a bathroom and on the back wall, I have all the plumbing lines. How would I support the top part? Do I just nail a treated board on the back wall and nail the top part of the frame to it? please advise. also, on the left bathroom wall, you'll notice the frame comes out a bit more because of the big plumbing line. I think it's about 6.5" or 7" from the back wall. what's the recommended method to leave an opening for the drain cleanout opening?

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1. frame the short wall coming out past the plumbing, flush with the wall the plumbingis on.
2. Run bottom plate say 1" back from the edge of the pipe, flush with the pipe so drywall will not buldge. or you could box around the plumbing.
3. Stop the top plate before the plumbing at the top.
4. Run a short "top plate from a stud that is near the plumbing onthe bottom, this stud will be shorter to fit under where the plumbing jogs, to your last full length stud which is on the end of the top plate then straight down to the bottom plate.
You may need to add another short stud depending on spacing.
5. That short "top plate will need some bocking back to the concrete wall and be fastened to it. Usually make a T out of treated 2x4 and concrete screw it to the wall, and screw to the side of the last short stud, cut flush with the wall. If it is 1&1/2" just a flat treated 2x4 on wall then toe screw to it (or toe nail).

It looks like your plumbing is over 16" if it is 16 inch or so or less them just stop last stud before it and build the other wall. that jogs out.
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mae-ling, I read your post a few times and trying to draw a picture in my head but not sure if I'm getting this right! I'll try to draw something out and post for review/approval.

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1. frame the short wall coming out past the plumbing, flush with the wall the plumbingis on.
2. Run bottom plate say 1" back from the edge of the pipe, flush with the pipe so drywall will not buldge. or you could box around the plumbing.
3. Stop the top plate before the plumbing at the top.
4. Run a short "top plate from a stud that is near the plumbing onthe bottom, this stud will be shorter to fit under where the plumbing jogs, to your last full length stud which is on the end of the top plate then straight down to the bottom plate.
You may need to add another short stud depending on spacing.
5. That short "top plate will need some bocking back to the concrete wall and be fastened to it. Usually make a T out of treated 2x4 and concrete screw it to the wall, and screw to the side of the last short stud, cut flush with the wall. If it is 1&1/2" just a flat treated 2x4 on wall then toe screw to it (or toe nail).

It looks like your plumbing is over 16" if it is 16 inch or so or less them just stop last stud before it and build the other wall. that jogs out.
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please see the attached image. does this tackle the issue? the plumbing pipes are 4.5" from the concrete wall, so will my framing be so it's flushed with the plumbing.

Is this a usable solution or do anyone have a better one?
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Absolutely no response? Either this is a brilliant idea or so bad that nobody even wants to talk to me.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:59 PM   #45
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Nice project, I am new here, I looked at first post then jumped to page 3 to see last post.
I have not been following it.
I am going to guess that there are no permits on this job, no inspectors....
Let me rephrase, you are the home owner doing the work, is no structural, plumbing is already in, I would not pull a permit. I could be wrong here since I did not read the 3 pages.

I see your goal as trying to create framing to hold drywall, you do want the framing flat with no bumps in it to get around plumbing.
You want it secure so that sections do not float back and forth.
You do not want to cover any clean outs in the plumbing or at least create access to them.

Often you need to get creative on framing in this situation.
Your diagram is creative, I see weak points in it.
Only issue I see, if it is floppy and does not line up from one end to the other.
Maybe some blocks fastened to the concrete wall, some 2x4 struts coming from the blocks to the framing.
With this you can plumb the wall, pull the weak points in and out before you fasten the struts to hold it rigid.

Again, I apologize for reading your first post and your last. Framing in new construction is straight forward, framing in remodel and in this situation around existing utilities, you have to get creative. Just keep the main goal in mind.
Plumb walls, flat surface, access panels, sofits and chases, you will be fine.

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