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Old 07-30-2007, 01:22 PM   #16
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you might be amazed at how common it is to find walls, floors, and ceilings that are not plumb or level or square, especially in older buildings. This is so common in older buildings that it is often expected or at least accepted during a remodel. You may be the only one that ever notices depending on how bad it really is.

You may want to re check your wall and ceiling with a level. Often corners have excess drywall mud in them making them appear worse than they are with a square. You could also stretch a string or straight edge from corner to corner to see how straight the ceiling is.

Moulding and trim can often work magic. From the sound of it your mirror is close to the wall on each side and the top is close to the ceiling. If you over lap the mirror with a piece of moulding and push it tight to the ceiling, You are less likely to notice that the moulding is not level than you would if you have a gap between the mirror and the ceiling that starts out narrow and gets larger on one side. You could also frame the mirror with trim on 3 or 4 sides. I would not set the mirror parallel with the ceiling if it is not level. You could have the top or side of the mirror cut to match the wall or ceiling. It is usually not very expensive to take have your local glass shop trim it for you.

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Old 07-30-2007, 07:26 PM   #17
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Dude you were right about the corner being a bad way to check for square, it wasn't off nearly as much as it appeared to be!! The ceiling is almost perfectly level, the wall bows a little, but not bad.


Well, I got the wall setup, gonna do final sanding tomorrow. Came out pretty ghetto (see pics ), as the drywall I got was slightly thinner than the rest of the wall. I tried bridging the gap the best I could, but it's my first time using dry wall mud stuff so it came out pretty 'amateur' lol. I would've done more to make it better if it wasn't going to be 100% covered behind a mirror.

- installed vertical cleats at each end of the opening
- cut the sheet rock, primed
- drilled into the cleats and the middle supports
- mud
- tape
- mud
- wet sand
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:28 PM   #18
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Not even gonna bother putting up the mirror tonight, I always try to refrain from doing 'finishing' things at the end of the day.
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Use cleats on all four sides. The existing studs look fine. Just remove the nail. Scape off the excess crap around the edge before you tape. Make it nice and smooth.
As for the molding. If your mirror is close to the ceiling which I think you mentied the molding going over the mirror will hide the off level ceiling a little.
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Use cleats on all four sides. The existing studs look fine. Just remove the nail. Scape off the excess crap around the edge before you tape. Make it nice and smooth.
As for the molding. If your mirror is close to the ceiling which I think you mentied the molding going over the mirror will hide the off level ceiling a little.
Ya I got the nail out, scraped/razored the excess, mudded, taped, mudded.

Also, it's the wall that's not level, the ceiling is quite true.





Got a little question - I did the mud last night, maybe 6ish. Since then, the bathroom's had a fan sealed in teh window pulling air out, a fan blasting the patched wall, and another fan just for more air motion - and it still stinks.

I don't want to put the mirror up until its scent's gone, right? I'm imagining that if I do put it up, it's just gonna slow the dry time exponentially... I guess I would've just expected it to smell normal now, given that it's a vacuumed wind tunnel aimed outside, but it's 24 hours later and still stinks..
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You do need to make sure it is dry before you put up the mirror. The last thing you want is mold to grow back there. Do you live in a humid area. That will slow down the dry time. You May find it will dry faster if you point a fan right at it. All Purpose joint compound can take more time to dry if you have some thick spots. I like to use 20 minute mud that you mix yourself when I am doing repairs like this. That is a piece of information that I supose is a little to late.
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Was your mud fresh? You might find a 2 day drying time on first coat. Give it time. It will be pure white when dry. Don't forget t sand it smooth before you go further. I would also prime and paint the area before putting the mirror up. Mud will absorb moisture if not sealed and painted causing mold to form under the mirror. Applying mud takes practice. Good for you to give it a try.
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You do need to make sure it is dry before you put up the mirror. The last thing you want is mold to grow back there. Do you live in a humid area. That will slow down the dry time. You May find it will dry faster if you point a fan right at it. All Purpose joint compound can take more time to dry if you have some thick spots. I like to use 20 minute mud that you mix yourself when I am doing repairs like this. That is a piece of information that I supose is a little to late.
Yeah as soon as I started using it, i thought there must've been a version that was fast dry. Too late now though! I could've went back to hd to check, but no biggie.

The smell was seriously lower/almost gone this morning, and yeah there's been fans blowing right on it (and at the window creating suction/vacuum to pull the smell outdoors).
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Was your mud fresh? You might find a 2 day drying time on first coat. Give it time. It will be pure white when dry. Don't forget t sand it smooth before you go further. I would also prime and paint the area before putting the mirror up. Mud will absorb moisture if not sealed and painted causing mold to form under the mirror. Applying mud takes practice. Good for you to give it a try.
Very good to know!! Had no idea I needed to prime again, hopefully the mud says that on teh instructions, otherwise if you didn't say that I would've been in trouble!

1 coat of kilz primer (quick dry stuff) sufficient?
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I use a PVA primer. It's made for sheetrock. Cheaper than Kilz and does the job. They have it at the box stores.
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I use a PVA primer. It's made for sheetrock. Cheaper than Kilz and does the job. They have it at the box stores.
i used some oil based kilz. Didn't even realize it was oil based til I got home lol.

I applied 2 coats of it today, bathroom still smells of the stuff (unsure if it's the primer or the mud, not that it matters much).

Hopefully the mirror will go up tomorrow, if the smell's gone I'll install it


(if anyone's got tips for installing a rather large bathroom mirror, I'd love to hear them! My intended approach is lining it up, marking my holes, anchoring into the studs, probably just use 4 anchors/screws/mirror holders, and use those rubber-esque pads that keep the mirror cushioned from its mounting brackets/hooks)

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