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Old 02-07-2011, 06:37 PM   #1
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Currently planning a kitchen remodel project (project thread and pics coming soon). Looking for suggestions and ideas concerning the new kitchen entry. Please refer to the PDF's.

We are closing in the preexisting kitchen door which sits where there will be shallow cabinets all the way to the left of the range on the new plans. The new kitchen entry will be a 32" door and single side light that will be mounted flush to the interior wall to accommodate a storm/screen door.

The space we are working with is 54" but it was suggested by the contractor that we keep the new opening close to 48" My wife is adamant about a screen door for ventilation in the summertime, otherwise probably wouldn't even bother with a storm since there is a large protected porch.

We are getting a Therma Tru fiberglass door and sidelight and having it installed bya contractor. It was suggested that I order a storm door extender for the door. I am really having trouble envisioning it. I will be doing some of the work so this does still count as DIY.

To complicate things somewhat is the fact that the exerior wall is 12 inches thick rather that the standard 4 or 6 inch. The contractor told me to order a 6" door jamb that he will trim and weatherstrip out. The door supplier thought I would do best with a 13" jamb (frame?), but I guess I will go with the installer is suggesting there.

Based on my plans, I am looking for opinions on:
1. Which way should I have the door swing.
2. Which side should the side light be on.
3. Should the hinge be on the on the side toward the side light or away from the side light.
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:01 AM   #2
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The door should open to the wall. If it's going at the bottom of the "L", it looks like a tight fit going past the stove.
If I'm going to ask about a door, I would have put it on the diagram.
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Opinions on best flow is primarily what I am looking for. I have a 32" door that is joining a 12 or 14" sidelight in a 48" approximate door opening. I think my best option is to have the door closest to the refrigerator wall, hinged on that side where it will swing inot and meet the cabinets on that side and latch in on tight side facing the sidelight.

I have pretty much ruled out having it swing toward the stove. I am wondering if the sidelight should be on the stove side with the hinge between the door and sidelight as an option.

I am also looking for some who has installed Therma Tru doors since I have been told two different things by my remodling contractor and the door salesman (Not lowes or HD either a real supply vendor). Having a hard time visualizing the screen door extendor that was suggested. I have even Googled it whth not good results.

If I could draw it in I would. I can't get into paint with my PC currently.
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Opinions on best flow is primarily what I am looking for. I have a 32" door that is joining a 12 or 14" sidelight in a 48" approximate door opening. I think my best option is to have the door closest to the refrigerator wall, hinged on that side where it will swing inot and meet the cabinets on that side and latch in on tight side facing the sidelight.

I have pretty much ruled out having it swing toward the stove. I am wondering if the sidelight should be on the stove side with the hinge between the door and sidelight as an option.

I am also looking for some who has installed Therma Tru doors since I have been told two different things by my remodling contractor and the door salesman (Not lowes or HD either a real supply vendor). Having a hard time visualizing the screen door extendor that was suggested. I have even Googled it whth not good results.

If I could draw it in I would. I can't get into paint with my PC currently.
The only screen doors Therma-tru sells(on their website) goes on their patio doors. I've put these doors in and just use a screen unit from one of the screen door manufacturers.
I don't understand the 13" door jamb need. Try posting pictures of the wall this thing is going through. It would help if you mentioned, the wall thickness and it's construction.
Try to make some indication on the diagram where the door is going. Little "xxx" would do.
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The new door is going in between the range and the counters. Look for the area on the downview labeled "New door". I actually do have pictures of the wall cross section on another computer. I will have to post them tomorrow. Interior there is lathe and plaster, then what looks like tongue and groove siding, then what looks like an old 7"x10" pike- it is rounded on one corner. This sits on two courses of standard sized cinder block- 16 inch high total and 8 inches thick. Then there is exterior wood clapboard siding and exterior to that is the asbestos shingle you see on the outer wall of the house.

The house was moved to it's current location 1939 and I have no idea how old the original structure is. It was set two courses hing on the cinderblocks to make the first floor ceilings 7 ft high and is a post and beam structure.
I was wondering if a storm door extender was necessary because that is one of the things I have to make a decision to order of not order when I go to order the door and sidelight.

You can sort of get a sense of the thickness of the wall as you look at the windows in front. The new door is going on the back where there is a patio. We really only need a storm door to hold a screen in the summertime for ventilation since the door is protected by the open patio. We don't have quite enough room for a double patio door.
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Followup. The door and sidelight have been ordered. From inside, the sidelight will be on the left, the door on the right, hinged right and flush to the inside wall. This will allow the door to swing toward the cabinets instead of the stove and will provide a landing zone on the counter top by the refrigerator and the small one next to the stove.

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