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Old 08-10-2007, 04:27 PM   #1
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linoleum over old tile mortar?


I pulled up an old tile floor in the kitchen. The mortar/tile adhesive underneath is all uneven and such with the ridges. I need to go over it. Some ideas I had were:

-By hand, apply tile cement into all the ridges, and smooth it all out the best I can

-Use self leveling concrete, but I was worried about having to seal every little wall/crack to keep it from running out

-Just go over the whole floor with cement board.


I'm still debating on what to use to finish it off. I was thinking linoleum just because of the hassle of tile. But, I do have enough tile to do it if I can get it all leveled out.

There's a spot or two where it's uneven due to being under an appliance/cabinets when they worked on the floor in the past.

I just want to know the best way to smooth it all out so I can apply flooring.

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Old 08-10-2007, 10:35 PM   #2
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Can the substrate this mortar is on, can it be removed? If not, get off all the inordinate high spots and put down a layer of plywood. If you're going with sheet vinyl, use 1/4" luan ply. Pay close attention to the nailing pattern and instructions about the ply seams the vinyl floor manufacturer has.
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I've laid linoleum before without being careful to get it exactly smooth and flat and been disappointed with the results. Tiling over an uneven floor is a nightmare, too.

So, basically, you'll need to get it level. If it's not perfect, I'd prefer tiling it over linoleum, myself.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:10 PM   #4
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The tile/mortar was put ontop of some sort of 1/4" (looks like) luan. It's proving extremely difficult to get off, thousands of nails.... so I really don't want to go that route if I don't have to.

Using self-leveler seemed like a revelation to me... Any reason that wont work? I figure it'd give the sturdiest base resting ontop of the old stuff, for new tile...
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johnny 331 said:
I'm still debating on what to use to finish it off. I was thinking linoleum just because of the hassle of tile. But, I do have enough tile to do it if I can get it all leveled out.

You need to decide what floor is going down before you can decide how to proceed.
For a successful tile floor installation you need at least 1" of wood substrate and a cement backer(1/4" or 1/2").
You removed the tile for a reason, what was it.?
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:53 PM   #6
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removed it for aesthetic reasons, didn't like the look.

I will do new tile, that will probably be the best investment.

So there's at least a 1" substrate there now. So do you suggest I level out the mortar that's there, with more mortar, get it even as I can, then just apply some tile-backer ontop?

Sorry to be so dense, but I'm young so everything's pretty new to me, don't have the 'ol "years of experience"
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A pro could make it level as he laid the tile -- you and me need to get it level first

Level first and the all you need to worry about is laying tile.
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You need to remove the 1/4" luan. This is not an appropriate tile substrate. Yeah I know, alot of nails. But when you remove the luan, you get a level place to thinset and nail down some 1/4" cementboard.
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