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Old 03-06-2008, 09:31 AM   #31
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It's good to hear about the Kraftmaid brand of cabinets, what do you think of Thomasville or American Woodmark?

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Old 03-06-2008, 05:47 PM   #32
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I understand. However if we were to bet a gentlemans bet for squats and giggles I would bet if ya called them and explained they would fix it The company now; dealer got paid and he dont care no more LOL LOL
I know that you would win that bet. If it were me, first the cabinets would have been inspected in time, and I would have been on them very quickly. However, it is not me and my kids certainly do things differently than the wife and me. Kraftmaid is a great company and wouldn't want someone to accept less than the best from them.
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:15 PM   #33
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Sweet Tea and a lunch at Ryan's
Sorry, I can't take a sure bet, when it is in your favor. Better luck next time.
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:03 PM   #35
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Damn I tried, ya cant blame me for that
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:18 AM   #36
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I would also like to know what people say about American Woodmark. The HD lady was pushing it suggesting it was no worse than Kraftsmaid but for much less.
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Old 03-13-2008, 08:18 PM   #37
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well i pulled the trigger today and ordered the cabinets! I was able to get an upgrade to 3/4 ply construction and the full extension under mount hardware for a little less than 10%. I'll let everyone know in four weeks or so if I am happy!!!!
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:41 PM   #38
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I would also like to know what people say about American Woodmark. The HD lady was pushing it suggesting it was no worse than Kraftsmaid but for much less.
I have been installing for years and each manufacturer seems to cycle through the following trend: good quality - High Sales volume - Delivery times slow - Quality drops - Expansion - Quality drops more - Sales drop dramatically - Quality Recovers.

This past year has been rough for KraftMaid. They opened a new factory in UT. A large portion of the cabinets we received from the new factory had quality control problems. They went through several sales reps in our territory. They are recovering from these issues now and we continued to be able to receive replacement parts for the bad ones. The biggest issue was their turn around time, and that the replacement part may still be inferior.

I did a KraftMaid job just last week and it went in with out any real concerns. We do have 2 missing doors and one damaged plant on door that are being shipped to the job. I was pleased overall to see they are recovering.

A few years ago I dreaded installing American Woodmark cabinets. It seemed that every job we did there were out of square cabinets, broken cabinets, missing cabinets, etc. This past year many designers slowed sales of KraftMaid in favor of other manufactures. American Woodmark built a new factory in AZ a few years ago and was poised for increased sales. This year American Woodmark has really shined for us. They have upgraded their hardware in their cabinets. They have improved shipping times. Their quality has been much better. At this point I have to note that I believe KraftMaid has a better finish process. Their conversion varnish seems superior by far to me. That said, I have been delighted with American Woodmark's performance this past year. Remember that American Woodmark has several lines of cabinets sold under different brand names. Some brands will be better than others, while some are identical to one another just re-branded for the retailer. Look at the construction, the materials, and the hardware. Make sure you know what you are comparing.

Master Brand is another manufacturer that seems to be showing early signs of coming on strong. They have actually closed several factories this year but, have re-tooled the one closest to us. We are seeing deliveries in two to three weeks right now from Master Brand.

I am eager to see what this year ahead will hold for all the companies we work with.
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:02 PM   #39
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I got a call From Kraftmaid yesterday. my cabinets are scheduled to be delivered in 5 weeks ( they could have delivered earlier but I pushed them back a couple of weeks, need to make sure we are ready for them)!
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Got my cabinets almost completely installed everything is looking good - - Except!!!! I was not aware that I would need to modify the cabinet for the double ovens that we bought Kraft maid does not have instructions for this. Has Any one done this before? How involved is this, is this major surgery or just minor?? Any guidance would be appreciated. ovens are 49.5" tall
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It is not quite major surgery HOWEVER: Much care is needed.
First; DONT TOUCH IT UNTIL THE OVEN YOU ARE USING IS IN YOUR POSSESSION
#2 RE read number one :}:}
Blue tape the the stiles, use real fine magic marker, use a jigsaw to do your cuts AND make sure that you cut on a slight inward taper to relieve that cut.
MAKE ALL MEASUREMENTS FROM THE OVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT ANY PAPERWORK! Dont ask How I know this
If more work than this is involved such as moving the floor etc than I suggest you get a pro to do it. That said most likely you only have to widen the opening and normally there is space provided.
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Got my cabinets almost completely installed everything is looking good - - Except!!!! I was not aware that I would need to modify the cabinet for the double ovens that we bought Kraft maid does not have instructions for this. Has Any one done this before? How involved is this, is this major surgery or just minor?? Any guidance would be appreciated. ovens are 49.5" tall
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Skinny, this is a typical situation. Most stock cabinets are this way. Instead of a cabinet manufacturer making an oven cabinet for every possible oven size, it's up to you to create the proper opening. Actually, there are more situations where this occurs other than just with ovens. Skymaster is absolutely correct in the procedure HOWEVER, there is one possibility that may exists that you need to be aware of BEFORE you start cutting any cabinet. Some....and I mean some, ovens mount differently than the typical. The instructions that skymaster is discussing deals with an oven that has a lip on it to hide the cabinet cut-out. There are ovens that don't have this lip. In this rare case, you need to get an oven trim kit that will "frame" the oven to the cabinet.
This is a rare situation but since I don't know what oven you are installing, you should be aware of this possibility....no matter how slim the chance is.

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Aye Angus; I defer to your expertise :} I havent had the displeasure of needing a trim kit Too many the other way. I have had to occasion to call GE and ream them a new one over their installlation instructions. I still remember the worst ever was a discrepency of 2 INCHES!!!!!!! YES 2 inches on width, of course WIDER than oven. dont know why I even looked at paperwork but I did about 3/4 way thru installation my way and could not believe what I saw, hence first thing after the box to head to the dumpster are the instructions :}:}
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hey skymaster, as you said...from experience. I guess mine was just opposite yours. I had an oven installed and my cut-out was visible for the entire 2 weeks while I had to wait for the trim kit I had to special order
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Thanks guys!!
The top needs to be trimed and so does the bottom. I think the best bet is to pay to have it done correctly!! by the way the oven is a 30" Thermador double oven!
Thanks for you help!!!

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