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mgarfield 01-19-2010 03:48 PM

Kitchen reno, any better suggestions?
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My wife and I are planning a full kitchen reno to start within 2 months. It will involve taking down a wall that separates the kitchen and living room, not load-bearing, laying bamboo throughout the first floor and re-arranging the current kitchen layout. The current kitchen lacks a dishwasher and any large usable counter space. Were going to be utilizing a corner sink to maximize countertop prep area and relocate the appliances. The pic from google sketchup give what we are planning. Over the sink we're using a 30" corner cabinet flanked by 12x30" wall cabinets and then stepped down with 36" long cabinets throughout the rest of the uppers. The table will be placed in the open corner (area where you would stand for this perspective). To the left of the fridge is the entrance from other areas of the house. The wall to the left is the wall that is being removed, a half wall will be in the space where the floor jaunts out in the drawing the rest completely open and a consistent floor, behind you is an outside wall. The kitchen measures 10' 4" x11' 4". Long wall is the stove wall. The wall with the doorway is 7' 3/4".

What does everyone think? Small kitchen and this seems to be my best beat for maximum usable counter space and adding the all important dishwasher!

Thanks, mike

mgarfield 01-19-2010 04:09 PM

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Some pics of the current layout. The wall your looking at in the pic is the one coming down. The right side will be removed completely, the left will be left as a half wall extending out about 4 feet

Ron6519 01-19-2010 04:36 PM

Counter prep space is still small and it's concentrated by the sink area. Anyway you could wrap a cabinet or two around the stove corner to get some room for prep in that area? Can't tell if the table could be rotated parallel to the new stove wall.

mgarfield 01-19-2010 05:06 PM

If I wrap the wall where the stove is I run into a window, even if I resize it I still wont be able to get a large prep area since its an eat in kitchen and I need a table somewhere. Thats why the idea of the placement for the stove came into play, between the sink and the stove there will be about 4 1/2 feet of counter top and although the stove is there you could utilize it to put pots/pans on as you prep making it "almost" a continuous countertop.

Thanks for the reply though, maybe some remeasuring with the wall being gone it could be a possibility. Any other suggestions? or criticisms? Incase i missed a possible oh this sucks situation that i created!

tpolk 01-19-2010 05:22 PM

how sabout a chefs butcher block mobile work station for help with food prep

Daniel Holzman 01-19-2010 05:40 PM

Perhaps consider putting an island between the kitchen and living room, use one side for food prep, the other side for seating. I agree the food prep area seems really small. We redid our kitchen some years ago, took out the wall to the dining room, put in an island. We rarely use the dining room, but the kitchen, we spend at least half our time there, and the island gets most of the attention.

moneymgmt 01-20-2010 09:55 AM

I'm with you in the tiny kitchen club! My two cents, if its worth that much! Ffirst, if the half wall separates your kitchen and living room it is a great place to put a narrow countertop with two bar stools. It is multi-functional as counter space, extra seating for the living room, and a place to snack if you don't want the kids taking food into there.

Second thought is your sink layout. I like moving it to the corner but the cabinets above it are going to be IN YOUR FACE when you're washing anything. Is there any way to eliminate the corner cabinets and maybe put a couple open shelves there? How about adding a window where the corner cabinet on the outside wall is? I know the idea is to maximize storage but I'm thinking it may get dark and claustrophobic when you're trying to clean plates.

Lastly, in a 10'x11' kitchen its going to be very difficult to have any type of dining table AND island or mid-room counter space.

Great sketch up and pics, good luck and let us know what you decide!

mgarfield 01-20-2010 03:37 PM

I was right there with you about the corner sink, until I saw the same set up at ikea. It seemed as long as the corner cabinet and the two flanking it are raised high enough and some clever lighting is added it doesnt feel that way. We talked to a designer at Kitchen World yesterday and changed a few things, first being the sink base insead of the corner front the new base will be straight across the front and a single bowl insted of the butterfly sink. The set up worked in the showroom, hopefully it will work in practice! We're probably going to leave the fridge and stove where they are in the current layout too, that allows for a 5ft prep area, the largest so far.

We picked out, well my wife picked out Homecrest cabinets, hicoray in a medium glaze. We still have to pick out the flooring, were going bamboo just need to finalize the color.

Thanks for the tips Ill post some pics when walls start disappearing

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