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Old 10-29-2007, 11:12 AM   #16
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Is it a pencil that is attached to your ear by a retractable leash??? That's what I've been waiting for. Can't keep track of those darn things!

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Old 10-29-2007, 01:11 PM   #17
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I find this useful site http://www.loneinventor.com ... this may change my course of actions... as this site is very similar to DIYForums exception it is for invention....
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:06 PM   #18
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People, when I say it, I will do it, that is what happen to all my postings here so far. For this here is my action plan:

- bought two books about DIY patenting... they are great
- file provincial patent application
- get feedback from different channels include you people to judge how commercialable of this invention
- I completely drop the idea of doing it by inventionhome already after my own investigation, the bottom line is: if your invention is good, you don't need them, if you invention is bad, they won't do you any good....

anyway... I am so excited... even my wife start agreeing with me by stop stopping me tallking about it...
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:10 PM   #19
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Take it from someone who has dealt with these companys. All they want is your money. I invented something a few years ago while doing a job. Come to find out it would cost me over $10,000 to get a patent. Take concretemasonary advice and see a lawyer. About some 40 years ago I knew a fellow that invented something and his lawyer advice him to tell no one till he applied for the patent. Do your research. How many will sell? At what cost? Profit? etc etc. then go for it. Good luck
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:08 AM   #20
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Thank You.... I think I will file the provincial patent application myself which cost me only 100 bucks and I am protected. then I can start geting opinions from everyone in the world including you here whether this product has any commercial value, if the answer is yes, then I will go for real patent, if the answer is no, I will drop the whole idea and too bad I lost 100 bucks.... the books I bought is great and I have no problem filing the provincial patent application myself after reading it.... anyone can do it..... regarding search... anyone can do that himself/herself as well.... don't waste money to see any attorney... unless you are rich.... until a real patent is on its way... even then... may be you can do it yourself as well... I am not sure about that one... haven't read the other book yet...
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:54 AM   #21
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One last thing. Make sure you have all your notes, models, etc. dated. And if your interested you could get a poor mans patten. That is have 2 people (not related to u) sign a form stating that you have invented the item and shown it to them, etc, etc. Anything about the invention should be dated.
Good LUck and looking forward to see what u have invented.

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Old 11-05-2007, 11:19 AM   #22
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Thanks, except I do everything on computer rather than using pencil and paper... did take a few pictures of the prototype though... but up to now, I shared the information with no one so I should be safe... thanks again and yes I am going to post information of the invention very soon as I don't want to wait as well in case someone in the other part of the world come up with similar idea ... that all my effort is waste so far.... I expect to finish filing sometimes this month... so should let you people know at latest by the end of this month....
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:44 AM   #23
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Don't be surprised when your application gets kicked back to you. Normally, most self filed applications do because of the holes in the search. Examiners know how to search fully and most applicant searches are too narrow and only look at the specific application and not for points that refer to another field.

Also, do not limit your application to any specific dimensions and leave the scale/size opportunities open if you can. Someone can patent the same concept with different dimensions.
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:00 PM   #24
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Thank again, I tried do searching every here and then... and so far the search result still positive... but you are right... who knows... but that can happen to professional as well and I believe you can probably do a better job than the professional in one sense that you got all the time at your hand where they charge you $200/hour which means they only got 2 hours searching time for you to spare..... anyway... thanks for the tips of the dimension.... for "provincial patent application" it just put you in the line and the goveronment aren't going to spend time to review the application until the actual application submitted.... so kicked back you said in your message would actually happen in the actual patent submission time, that is why I even consider DIY for the actual submission if I ever going to do that to make myself less disappointed if case like that happens.... but then this is after everyone say the idea is good and I will go from there and may change stragegy it is kind of too early to think about that now...
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Old 11-05-2007, 12:09 PM   #25
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Take a look at the U.S. Patent Office site. They have a good search feature.

I assume you are from Canada, but very many Canadian pattents the also U.S. patents and show up. The only thing you will not find is the public knowledge that was used somewhere and never patented. This is one of the things that can make an issued patent void if someone wants to contest it.

Professionals can do a search much better and faster. DIYers can miss many applications for other fields or trades.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:11 PM   #26
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I am aware of the US site of course at this stage of the game, but a even better site is http://ep.espacenet.com/quickSearch?locale=en_EP which gives you worldwide pattern....etc... I think it really depends on the situation/product/idea whether hiring professional is a good idea...in my case, I certainly don't want to spend the $400 search fee.... anyway.... once I submitted the application and let you know the invention, you can then comment on whether this is in fact a valid thing or welcome to do some searches for me... as I consider we are brother and sisters in this site.... and help each other for everything if we can....
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:35 PM   #27
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Yahoo!!! I just finished filing the "Provincial Patent Application" 2 minutes ago.... People now I can tell you my invention, below are cut and paste from my application specifications:

Portable, Expandable, Foldable and Height-Adjustable Modular Workbench (Patent Pending)




Advantages of portable, expandable, foldable and height-adjustable modular workbench invention:

Although others have invented portable workbench, my invention is superior because it:
  • is simple and easy to make
  • is low cost to make
  • is simple to setup
  • is simple to putdown and folded for storage
  • is more versatile
  • is continuous height adjustable to flush with other platforms like table saw
  • can be mount to platform like table saw to act as an extension support
  • can expand to different sizes
  • can be setup as different shapes
  • can be transported easily
  • can be set up on a unleveled ground to form a leveled platform
  • is created by only one type of modular units simple and easy to expand
  • allow customers to purchase a few units initially and more units upon needed
The present inventions may have one or more of above advantages.


Now do you think this is a good invention... give me all your questions or advice.... consider I don't want to expose my design that quickly as there are third world countries people also watching this site... but I will try to answers all questions and I also want all of your opinions....

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Old 11-13-2007, 02:56 PM   #28
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I am currently selling my plan at ebay

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MESE:IT&ih=006

I am not really trying to make money by selling the plan, but try to find out if there are people really interested in this stuff.

If there are no interests, I may lost my $100 bucks patent money and close the chapter.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:11 PM   #29
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If you're interested in feedback, I'll say that knowing only what you've told people, I don't see any reason to buy it. For all I can tell it is a small table-top with one leg that attaches to other tabletops with one leg.

You say it is better/faster/easier/more flexible, but without more pictures or movies showing HOW it's all those things, it really doesn't look like more than a wooden table with too few legs.

I'm not judging your invention's usefulness, but just telling you what it looks like right now to a consumer. I think if you want people to see how useful it is, you need to show them, not just tell them in general terms that you find it very useful.

Hope that helps,
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:18 PM   #30
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Thank you for your comment... but if I show everything or explain everything... what is the point to purchase the plan then...

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